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Old 12-12-2014, 12:28 PM
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While I've have huge disagreements with Zeke - he's a leftie - I would bet he's happy to see something like this.

I noticed the cop doesn't say hands up don't shoot.

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Old 12-13-2014, 12:57 PM
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Every life matters.

But if you threaten an officer with his/hers, you might lose yours.

Not complex.

"Meltdown?" Hell, I got bored...
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:06 PM
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"Meltdown?" Hell, I got bored...
Bored my ass.

You had a total emotional breakdown in front of everyone and had to go hide for three days.

And you expect black dudes to put up with the shit they do and not act out in anger when you can't even handle the heat of an internet forum?

You're weak Zeke.

It even rhymes.

"Zeke the weak"
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:08 PM
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Bored my ass.

You had a total emotional breakdown in front of everyone and had to go hide for three days.

And you expect black dudes to put up with the shit they do and not act out in anger when you can't even handle the heat of an internet forum?

You're weak Zeke.

It even rhymes.

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If you think that was a meltdown, you haven't read much of my stuff.

That was me mildly amused.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:41 PM
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More fun locally. The Police officer's union who fairly recently lost a big court case trying to cost him his job, mainly due to false testimony, started blowing more crap at him.

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"The Richmond Police Officers' Association does not tolerate or condone illegal actions by any member of the department, including the chief," Wilkinson wrote in an email. "By violating the law and then claiming the ends justify the means, the chief dishonored the department."
California government code 3206 reads, "No officer or employee of a local agency shall participate in political activities of any kind while in uniform."
Union president Hector Esparza did not respond to calls and an email seeking comment. Three Richmond police officers, who declined to give their names for fear of retribution, said the rank and file is divided over the chief's actions.
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So the mayor-elect Tom Butt who has been distributing most all official city business in an email list sent this response out today.

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Dear RPOA Members and other RPD Personnel:



As you may have seen late last week, the POA raised a concern about a decision I made to hold a “Black Lives Matter” sign when a group of other command staff and I visited with residents, many of them young people, at a non-violent, entirely peaceful protest held near the RYSE Youth Center on Macdonald Ave. last Tuesday.

We went to this protest to make sure things remained peaceful and to reinforce the idea that we were open to dialogue with the protesters about police issues. The people attending the protest were a friendly mix of neighborhood residents, activists, individuals involved in various local churches and non-profit groups, and youth. I was asked several questions by a young woman of color, who then inquired if I would hold a “Black Lives Matter” sign. I could have declined, but the message we are continuously trying to send to the community is that our department really DOES care about all lives—including black lives—and that we want the best possible relationships with every segment of the public we serve.

The complaint is that the sign I held was “political” and that I was therefore engaging in political activity while in uniform (an alleged violation of the California Government Code). I respectfully disagree that it is “political” to hold a sign in uniform that says, “Black Lives Matter” when visiting a local protest where the vast majority of participants are skeptical about police commitment to equal justice. I understand that some people see this differently, but I contend that what I did was reach out and commit to members of the black community that our department believes in treating them with fairness, justice, and respect. It is completely consistent with our Mission, our community policing efforts, and our underlying commitment to the public that “All Lives Matter”, INCLUDING black lives. Most importantly, it conveys that we want to build bridges and strengthen relationships with persons of color in our city.

This was not about supporting a candidate, an election issue, or taking a position on any national-level case involving the police. I agree it is usually inappropriate to do these things in public, especially in uniform or identified as an RPD officer. On the other hand, I believe that making a very positive affirmation that “minority lives matter” is completely consistent with the basic principles of good policing.

So, where are the lines drawn when it comes to representing RPD in public, particularly when in uniform? Here are some guidelines that generally apply:

Does the message/conduct involve overt political activity? (e.g., “Vote for Candidate X” or “Support Ballot Measure Y”)—If yes, it’s probably not appropriate to represent the Richmond Police Department or to be in a uniform or clothing identifying yourself as a Richmond Police Officer to convey the endorsement or opposition.
Is the message/conduct consistent with the Mission and Goals of the Department?—If yes, it’s probably okay to convey it in uniform if approved by the Department’s Administration.
Is the message/conduct consistent with the Department’s community policing efforts?—If yes, it will likely be approved by the Department’s Administration and can be done in uniform.

I have consistently been a proud supporter of our department and have stood behind our officers under many circumstances, including a number of occasions when public opinion was highly critical. That does not mean I subscribe to an “Us versus Them” approach to running the department or handling issues that are raised by the community. Let me be clear that interacting with community residents at a peaceful, local event does not equal support for the violence, rioting, or anti-police sentiment connected to similarly themed demonstrations in other places. I will say the same thing to you that I said to folks at the protest: I will consistently stand behind good policing and tough decisions that RPD officers make—but I will not defend misconduct, unjust treatment of the public, or poor service.

We are very fortunate to have much stronger relationships with members of the Richmond community than many police officers have with their residents in a number of other cities around the country. These partnerships have helped us significantly reduce crime and build strong support for our public safety efforts. Looking back historically, persons of color have not enjoyed the same kind of relationship with law enforcement that we are trying to make “the norm” in our city. Thank you for all the hard work YOU have done towards bringing about this change and for your future efforts.

I understand and respect the opinions of those who disagree with me, but as Chief, it is my job to make the best decisions I can about how to represent our department. That said, I always welcome your input, feedback, suggestions, and ideas because it helps me do my job better.
Regards,
Chief Magnus

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:04 AM
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Throwing the book at this guy is dumb.

I would support a sign saying "XXX" lives have meaning regardless of the variable.

The important thing to recall? So does an officer's.

Put an officer in danger of his life? Get the force required to maintain his/her safety.
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