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Old 09-19-2012, 02:47 PM
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Why not blame Clinton signing NAFTA which started this whole mess?
It's been done.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:04 PM
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It's been done.
Good to know.

Rather than doing anything to fix the issue, both parties just prefer to lie, and point fingers. Who believes this crap?!
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:11 PM
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Good to know.

Rather than doing anything to fix the issue, both parties just prefer to lie, and point fingers. Who believes this crap?!
Ever heard of a filibuster? If you're looking to blame the Dems check out how the Repubs have been abusing this tactic in an unprecedented level in the history of the country. I know it's easy to blame the messenger, cheerleader might be a more accurate description, but the checkbook and legislation are in the hands of the grossly misnamed Teaparty.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:16 PM
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Lessee, Clinton SIGNED nafta, when Obama said he'd reopen it the resulting bruhaha made him look very much the novice.

And he did say he would take on China re: currency.....

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Old 09-19-2012, 03:25 PM
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Ever heard of a filibuster? If you're looking to blame the Dems check out how the Repubs have been abusing this tactic in an unprecedented level in the history of the country. I know it's easy to blame the messenger, cheerleader might be a more accurate description, but the checkbook and legislation are in the hands of the grossly misnamed Teaparty.
Any evidence to support your statement? What bills have the Dem's tried to pass to restrict Chinese importation and outsourcing that were blocked by the Republicans?
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:16 AM
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Obama was just as bad re: China trade when he was running as an outsider.

So, how's the NAFTA thing going?

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Pretty good from all reports, Mexico is rapidly becoming a major trading partner and they are buying American made products. Just the single province of Ontario does more trade with the U.S. than most nations and their labor laws are superior to ours, unlike all that Apple shit.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:19 AM
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Why not blame Clinton signing NAFTA which started this whole mess?
That was trade between equals with effective labor laws and it had nothing to do with the so called free trade with Asia where there are no labor laws,
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:35 AM
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I'm fine with NAFTA, that giant sucking sound never did really happen.

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Old 09-20-2012, 08:18 AM
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Obama was just as bad re: China trade when he was running as an outsider.

So, how's the NAFTA thing going?

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Really? How so?

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Why not blame Clinton signing NAFTA which started this whole mess?
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It's been done.
Ad nauseum!

There's also the little detail that China isn't a signatory or a beneficiary of NAFTA. That only covers North America.

If you want to blame an act of our government for this you might want to consider giving China MFN status. (Clinton did that too. )

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