Problem solved

[d-ray657]

In Missouri, if you don't have something like a three hour block before or after work in which to vote, the employer is required to provode time off to vote. It's even a little more dificult to get time off in Kansas, but at least both states provide for it.

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

Kansas also offers advance voting, including Saturdays. It was for at least two or three weeks before the election - I think maybe more. I took adantage of it, and Kansas ended up with close to record turnout.

Here are the procedures: http://www.kssos.org/elections/elect...on_voting.html

A little over half of the 72%+ who voted voted in advance. Those who voted on election day appreciated the short lines.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Grumpy]

Removing labels would require people to think. Dem's would not know what the hell to do then

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Removing labels would require people to think. Dem's would not know what the hell to do then

I guess you mean to say that Democrats all need to see that "D" in order to know who to vote for. Well, look at the Virginia governor's race. Deeds ran as a Democrat but his campaign positions on key issues were virtually indistinguishable from McDonnell's. Rather than vote for Deeds on the strength of party, Democrats stayed home in droves. The turnout among Virginia Republicans was very similar to that in the November elections but the Dem's numbers collapsed.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I guess you mean to say that Democrats all need to see that "D" in order to know who to vote for. Well, look at the Virginia governor's race. Deeds ran as a Democrat but his campaign positions on key issues were virtually indistinguishable from McDonnell's. Rather than vote for Deeds on the strength of party, Democrats stayed home in droves. The turnout among Virginia Republicans was very similar to that in the November elections but the Dem's numbers collapsed.

The same thing happened here for Detroit's mayoral race. No one showed up so they drew straws. Does not matter. They both will run the city the same way as the last.

All those young, hip, super cool kids who voted in obie wan could give two craps about their local gooberment.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

The same thing happened here for Detroit's mayoral race. No one showed up so they drew straws. Does not matter. They both will run the city the same way as the last.

All those young, hip, super cool kids who voted in obie wan could give two craps about their local gooberment.

You seem to be suggesting that voter apathy was the problem in Detroit and you may be right but the situation in Virginia was different. There the Democratic candidate literally betrayed his base by reversing long-held positions on key issues after he'd secured the nomination. Democrats stayed home as a result and, really, who can blame them? They had nobody to vote for.

John

[elwood127]

I wonder if Government is still mandatory in schools? Civics as well. THey should be.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by elwood127

I wonder if Government is still mandatory in schools? Civics as well. THey should be.

I believe a lot of school systems have dropped it.

John

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Boreas

You seem to be suggesting that voter apathy was the problem in Detroit and you may be right but the situation in Virginia was different. There the Democratic candidate literally betrayed his base by reversing long-held positions on key issues after he'd secured the nomination. Democrats stayed home as a result and, really, who can blame them? They had nobody to vote for.

John

I can relate to that, I have nobody to vote for either.

But I always find someone to vote against.

Chas

[tincat]

get rid of the political parties altogether. randomly select a certain number of citizens to run for a particular office. give each access to various media to make their case-if you opt out or fail certain qualifying criteria(plain and simple restrictions on major criminality or disabilities), another random choice replaces you. winnow this initially somewhat large pool down via electronic 'voting' to a three person race wherein each contender gets more media time and scrutiny(no private funding). winner is biggest vote getter w/runner up as back up in case of probs or as vp in the national election.
ok, yeah, lots of stuff to be worked out here, but the one thing this does is eliminate the current hegemony that money and cronyism has over the governance of this country. don't blather on about somehow 'tweaking' the system; it is thoroughly corrupt and broken and should be abandoned. the elected, by the way, should serve as conscripts, with their needs provided(well-being, security, housing, etc., as well as access to all objective information available on any topic germane to their deliberations) and their choices well publicized. the job should be seen as a duty, not a prize, and you shouldn't get to bring all your 'homies' w/you, though a certain number of assistants(vetted to some degree) could be of your choice-they too, would be 'conscripted' to 'serve' as a 'duty'.
what we've got going on now is beyond a joke, and bears little resemblance to a true democracy, for which we are paying a continuing price in lives and treasure; i would much prefer that the 'authorities' be persons who come from the world in which i live and not from some gang which has succeded in manipulating the system to its own ends.