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Old 05-29-2016, 09:11 AM
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Sounds like the Neocons that coalesced around the Shrub administration, who promoted the iraq invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...ry?wprov=sfla1

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Sounds like the Neocons that coalesced around the Shrub administration, who promoted the iraq invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...ry?wprov=sfla1

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Old 05-29-2016, 10:32 PM
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With all the profits, yes, PROFITS, that big pharma has made for the last decade, they could have funded a cure for cancer all by themselves.

The high price for pharma drugs first funds research and development, and then funds profits. R&D costs have bumped up by 10% a year, profits have bumped up almost 1000 fold for the big two pharmas in St. Louis
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With all the profits, yes, PROFITS, that big pharma has made for the last decade, they could have funded a cure for cancer all by themselves.

The high price for pharma drugs first funds research and development, and then funds profits. R&D costs have bumped up by 10% a year, profits have bumped up almost 1000 fold for the big two pharmas in St. Louis
Well for one thing, profits, both for big Pharma, along with other big corporations, are what is left over after the CEO and all the top executives have been awarded their obscene compensation packages. Yeah, that's right, I called them obscene, because that's exactly what they are.

And for another thing, much of that R&D that the companies claim is bullshit.

http://www.slate.com/articles/busine...e_billion.html
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That's only half the story.

The pharmaceutical industry says controls such as those seen in Europe discourage investment in research and deny patients access to some drugs. “The U.S. has a competitive biopharmaceutical marketplace that works to control costs while encouraging the development of new treatments and cures,” said Lori Reilly, an executive at the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, a trade association.

If U.S. pricing fell to European levels, the industry would almost certainly cut its R&D spending, said Mr. Evans, the health-care analyst. “Does the U.S. subsidize global research? Absolutely, yes,” he said.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-...ugs-1448939481

So, in very twisted way, the US consumer is exclusively funding advances in drug therapies for the rest of the word. If the US adopted the European model, we'd have cheaper drugs but advances in drug therapy would slow to a crawl.

Now, that's not a vote in favor of the current system of pricing, but the global playing field is tilted against the US consumer.
Complete and utter bull shit. The sole reason all those foreign pharmaceutical companies maintain a U.S. presence is so they have access to all the research done by NIH and our universities. The only new drugs they have come up with are Vi@gra,Ci@lis and Levitor.
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