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01-13-2018, 05:30 PM
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Another gem of a Tweet from Mr. Comey.
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James Comey ✔ @Comey
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” This country’s greatness and true genius lies in its diversity.
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I am awaiting a response from Trump, but not holding my breath.
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01-14-2018, 10:04 AM
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Another gem of a Tweet from Mr. Comey.
I am awaiting a response from Trump, but not holding my breath.
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I think Comey misses the point, quite purposefully I suspect. The question that ignited the media shit-storm behind the shit-hole quote was this: why should we continue our current policy and not adopt a merit based immigration system. Like, for example, Canada:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/w...-haitians.html
But Canadian officials are warning that even liberal Canada has its limits amid concerns, fairly or not, that illegal migration is stretching the immigration system to a breaking point and risks stoking a potential backlash.
Canada’s minister of immigration, Ahmed Hussen, himself a former refugee who moved to the country from Somalia when he was 16, said Canada was proud to be a welcoming country but could not welcome everyone. Only about 8 percent of Haitian migrants had received asylum here since the summer, he said, while there is a backlog of about 40,700 cases, according to Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board.
“We don’t want people to illegally enter our border, and doing so is not a free ticket to Canada,” Mr. Hussen said in an interview. “We are saying, ‘You will be apprehended, screened, detained, fingerprinted, and if you can’t establish a genuine claim, you will be denied refugee protection and removed.’ ”
In what appeared to be an effort to dispel false hope among would-be immigrants and help stem an influx, Pablo Rodriguez, a Liberal member of Parliament who was born in Argentina, will be traveling to Los Angeles next week to meet with members of the Hispanic community there to explain the limits of Canadian asylum policy.
On an earlier trip there, he sought to counter false media reports in the Latin American press that he said were suggesting that migrants could travel to Canada, “walk in and stay forever.”
Canada has had a merit based system of immigration for years.
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01-14-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I think Comey misses the point, quite purposefully I suspect. The question that ignited the media shit-storm behind the shit-hole quote was this: why should we continue our current policy and not adopt a merit based immigration system. Like, for example, Canada:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/w...-haitians.html
But Canadian officials are warning that even liberal Canada has its limits amid concerns, fairly or not, that illegal migration is stretching the immigration system to a breaking point and risks stoking a potential backlash.
Canada’s minister of immigration, Ahmed Hussen, himself a former refugee who moved to the country from Somalia when he was 16, said Canada was proud to be a welcoming country but could not welcome everyone. Only about 8 percent of Haitian migrants had received asylum here since the summer, he said, while there is a backlog of about 40,700 cases, according to Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board.
“We don’t want people to illegally enter our border, and doing so is not a free ticket to Canada,” Mr. Hussen said in an interview. “We are saying, ‘You will be apprehended, screened, detained, fingerprinted, and if you can’t establish a genuine claim, you will be denied refugee protection and removed.’ ”
In what appeared to be an effort to dispel false hope among would-be immigrants and help stem an influx, Pablo Rodriguez, a Liberal member of Parliament who was born in Argentina, will be traveling to Los Angeles next week to meet with members of the Hispanic community there to explain the limits of Canadian asylum policy.
On an earlier trip there, he sought to counter false media reports in the Latin American press that he said were suggesting that migrants could travel to Canada, “walk in and stay forever.”
Canada has had a merit based system of immigration for years.
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Trying to close our southern border to migration is a fool's errand.
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01-14-2018, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
I think Comey misses the point, quite purposefully I suspect. The question that ignited the media shit-storm behind the shit-hole quote was this: why should we continue our current policy and not adopt a merit based immigration system. Like, for example, Canada:..
Canada has had a merit based system of immigration for years.
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And Canada is also far more welcoming to refugees than we are and does not have a race-based policy such as Trump has demonstrated he wants through his travel bans and shithole comments. Stop defending the indefensible.
The bipartisan proposal brought by six Senators to the shithole meeting addressed all four areas Trump said that must be addressed: DACA, border security, chain migration and merit-based immigration and he blew it up with his racist comment. Rather than working with this proposal (as he promised he would just Tuesday. in his silly public meeting), he blows it up and rather than apologize for his racist comment to restart the process, he today blames Democrats for killing immigration reform in an effort to withhold funds from the military. As asinine as this is, it seems you bought it lock, stock and barrel.
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01-14-2018, 10:56 AM
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And Canada is also far more welcoming to refugees than we are and does not have a race-based policy such as Trump has demonstrated he wants through his travel bans and shithole comments. Stop defending the indefensible.
The bipartisan proposal brought by six Senators to the shithole meeting addressed all four areas Trump said that must be addressed: DACA, border security, chain migration and merit-based immigration and he blew it up with his racist comment. Rather than working with this proposal (as he promised he would just Tuesday. in his silly public meeting), he blows it up and rather than apologize for his racist comment to restart the process, he today blames Democrats for killing immigration reform in an effort to withhold funds from the military. As asinine as this is, it seems you bought it lock, stock and barrel.
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Republicans have no choice at the moment. Attitudes may change after the midterms.
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01-14-2018, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I think Comey misses the point, quite purposefully I suspect.[/I]
Canada has had a merit based system of immigration for years.
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I am sure he did and probably on purpose. But his prose is much more elegant than the Dotard's.
Also, I am all for copying the Canadian immigration system, but let's copy their healthcare system first.
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