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Old 07-11-2020, 12:08 PM
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Lots of “witnessing” from Insane and El, it doesn’t mean a whole lot to an atheist. I don’t have time now, but later on I’ll delve into this a bit more deeply. And citing the Bible means nothing to an atheist either. It is a compilation of HUMAN writings that are steeped in myth and superstition. I am not impressed.
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:55 AM
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Lots of “witnessing” from Insane and El, it doesn’t mean a whole lot to an atheist. I don’t have time now, but later on I’ll delve into this a bit more deeply. And citing the Bible means nothing to an atheist either. It is a compilation of HUMAN writings that are steeped in myth and superstition. I am not impressed.
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Yeah. I get that. But I've never met a real atheist face to face. All that claim to be turn out to be agnostic.

But I see it this way. The bible says there are two types of people: Sheep and goats. That is, the saved and those doomed to be the lost at death. They simply die and are gone forever, like a dog or a mouse or an ant.

But I see it as three. There are found sheep, lost sheep and goats. My words are to the lost sheep, as I was when I first heard them. If you are a lost sheep, this stuff will eventually matter. If you are a goat, it never will. But that is between you and God. I'm just the messenger.
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:10 PM
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The Bible is useless because it doesn't deter people from committing crimes (?)

The fear of going to prison doesn't seem to deter crimes. Are prisons useless ?
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:40 PM
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Steve

The Bible is useless because it doesn't deter people from committing crimes (?)

The fear of going to prison doesn't seem to deter crimes. Are prisons useless ?
Not quite what I said, there's an inference that Christianity is essential for an ethical meaningful life. There is scant evidence that either is correct, and that belief deterrs criminal behavior.
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:11 AM
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Not quite what I said, there's an inference that Christianity is essential for an ethical meaningful life. There is scant evidence that either is correct, and that belief deterrs criminal behavior.
I have no doubt that you do live an ethical meaningful life.

Many non-believers live by a code of ethics, and that's a good thing.

CS Lewis, a noted Christian theologian, seemed to believe that God might grant a pardon to people that lived a good life even though they didn't accept Christ as their Savior.

I like to think so, because my Dad was extremely ethical and did not believe in Christ or any religion. I used to pray that my Dad could go to Heaven with me, but I came to accept the fact that he probably won't.

CS Lewis apparently believed that Islamist who lived by their dogma would go to heaven even though they had been duped by a false god.
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:16 AM
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duped by a false god.
The sheer arrogance of you Evangelicals is enough to turn anyone off your nutty religion forever! How in the world you believe you are the only ones who know the "truth" is just astonishingly arrogant, ignorant and abusive. Shame on you!
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:26 AM
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The sheer arrogance of you Evangelicals is enough to turn anyone off your nutty religion forever! How in the world you believe you are the only ones who know the "truth" is just astonishingly arrogant, ignorant and abusive. Shame on you!
Stating what I believe in is no more arrogant that what you just said.

You KNOW the Bible is not true.

I'm not an Evangelist. I'm a Fatalist. I really don't care who goes to Hell, as long as it's not me.

I'm done for the day. Gotta go to bed.

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Old 07-11-2020, 12:42 PM
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The Bible is useless because it doesn't deter people from committing crimes (?)

The fear of going to prison doesn't seem to deter crimes. Are prisons useless ?
Worse than useless, often enough. But that's another thread.
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""Study: One-fifth of Jewish millennials believe Jesus is the son of God""


https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Study...-of-God-512015
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:45 PM
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""Study: One-fifth of Jewish millennials believe Jesus is the son of God""


https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Study...-of-God-512015
Far out.

An ad popped up on YouTube about this;

https://www.oneforisrael.org/evangel...xoCgHsQAvD_BwE
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