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Old 05-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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Obama goes to war?

Hillary is ratcheting up the rhetoric regarding North Korea.

Based on how and what 'they' (the US SK and allies) are saying they know for sure NK torpedo'd that ship.

It was a 'legal' action in the eyes of international law by NK 'cause NK and SK are still technically at war.

If SK fires back and this goes up in a big way, the US will support SK, no doubt.

Isn't that overrreaching and imperialism?

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Old 05-21-2010, 09:49 AM
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Hillary is ratcheting up the rhetoric regarding North Korea.

Based on how and what 'they' (the US SK and allies) are saying they know for sure NK torpedo'd that ship.

It was a 'legal' action in the eyes of international law by NK 'cause NK and SK are still technically at war.

If SK fires back and this goes up in a big way, the US will support SK, no doubt.

Isn't that overrreaching and imperialism?

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Are alliances imperialism?

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Old 05-21-2010, 09:57 AM
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I don't think so, but it's your party

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Old 05-21-2010, 12:06 PM
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Isn't that overrreaching and imperialism?
Only if we don't slap Israel should they get preemptively froggy in the Middle East.

It's the same standard.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:19 PM
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If SK fires back and this goes up in a big way, the US will support SK, no doubt.

Isn't that overrreaching and imperialism?

Pete

No, it isn't. "Pre-emption" is. Wars launched on deliberate misinformation are.

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Old 05-21-2010, 12:42 PM
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It's just like when Sadam sunk that... oh, it's not even close to the same. Sorry. I got confused.

Was there a point?

Wonder what will happen if we really need to fight a war- I mean one we need to fight. We're pretty thin fighting the optional ones right now. We went looking for WMDs. Well, we found some. They're just in North Korea and we're in tough shape to do anything about it.
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Pre-emptive - like fighting Europes' fight in Bosnia?

So if we start bombing the hell out of NK the left's OK with it?

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So if we start bombing the hell out of NK the left's OK with it?
Can't speak for "the left". As for me, no, not at this point- not "bombing the heel out of NK." I would be okay with some targeted response at a military target. If they could take out the nuke infrastructure it might be okay - assuming all diplomatic options have failed. I don't know. I have faith in Obama not to make the kind of catastrophic errors in judgment Bush made. I would not be in favor of any Iraq type action. No more countries to be tied up in for 100 years.

Wonder if the Tea folk would be willing to pay more taxes to support a military response?
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Peruse this article and see how smart it would be to invade or bomb Korea. If a bunch of ragtag Taliban can keep us occupied for nearly a decade in Afghanistan, think how badly we would fare against a standing Army of 80 divisions and brigades who are armed to the teeth. If the war stayed conventional, methink they would kick our ass, not to mention demolish Seoul within days with an artillery force made up of 18,000 heavy guns.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:11 PM
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If Obama initiates it rightly or wrongly no, and of course he would own it for better or worse.

NK has proved over and over that there is no diplomatic solution, they're 100% FOS. I'm guessing that, on the unlikely assumption it actually happens, it'll start tit for tat with the NK and SK navies before any bombing action.

Remember China standing over NKs' shoulder.

I'm still surprised at the lefts' response to the administrations' sabre-rattling, given their large anti-military wing.

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