Israel attacks peaceful aidbringers.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

This mentality is beyond my comprehension, much like the car bomb cowards who sat two children in the back of the car to make it seem innocuous. Then they ran from the car and detonated it - with the children still inside. I find such people capable of any moral depravity.

Ever read up on the Boer War?

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Guess we broke the law with the Cuba missile blockade then?

Yup!

John

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Don't paint this (me) as anti-Israel, okay? Next it'll be anti-Semitic.

The aggressor says it. It must be suspect.



So..... this was an inspection?



Perhaps, but "war"?



Nowhere in your citation or in the source for it does it say that these funds have actually been allocated or that any of the humanitarian aid it purchased been delivered to the Gazan people. What you have here is a $4.5 billion effort to circumvent and delegitimize the duly elected government of Gaza. The PNA, Israel and much of the world community want Hamas out of there and are prepared to see the Gazan people suffer to achieve it.



Do you actually think that would have happened without the international reaction to this wholly unwarranted attack?

John

I don't think you're anti semitic John, but anything Israel actually says will be dismissed out of hand by the folks throwing a fit.

Inspection, seizure, whatever really.

Not a war yet, and probably not. But Turkey is really huffing and puffing

Just because it was elected doesn't make it good or deserving of support. If a new ruler in Mexico was elected and swore to destroy us, and started tossing bombs at us, guess what would happen?

Originally Posted by Boreas

Establishing a blockade which declares a "no-go zone" in international waters isn't legal.

John

I'm sure Obama will clear this up shortly.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by merrylander

... but then I don't think like an arab.

Thank goodness for that Rob

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Ever read up on the Boer War?

John

Not especially, I have read about Armenian genocide, or how the Kurds had their land stolen by Turkey and Iraq. Note that the Kurds stand up and fight, no suicide bombers.

As to Israelies stealing arab land, just who did the arabs steal it from? Palestine is simply a figment of Lord Balfour's imagination, just as Jordan is.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yup!

John

Everybody's doing it, may as well get used to it.

[piece-itpete]

I was going by a Washington Post commentator:

"The raid took place on a ship that was apparently unarmed, in international waters. But Allen Weiner, a former State Department lawyer and legal counsel at the U.S. Embassy at The Hague, said Israel was technically operating legally.

"Israel claims to be in a state of armed conflict with a non-state group, with Hamas in Gaza. Under the laws of war, a blockage is legal," said Weiner, who teaches at Stanford Law School. "That includes operating on the high seas. You don't have to wait until you are on territorial waters."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2010053101699

Pete

[Grumpy]

Palastine screwed itself in 48. There will never be peace there, period..

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by finnbow

... and Israel was just dumb/cantankerous enough to play right into their hands.

I think -- as I've mentioned before but everyone ignored -- that's called, "being Israel."

Israel, for decades, has reminded me of my beagle, acting tough on the support of my loving, now deceased, German Shepherd/Rotty mix: known in this model as "America."

1. They need to be reminded the Big Stick isn't theirs.
2. They need to remove their "Never Again" head from their posterior.

That's not anti-semitic, it's REALITY.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

One thing that puzzles me about all this sympathy toward these arabs. I have a great deal of trouble scaring up sympathy for people who brain wash their young people.

While the Arabs can, at times, be less than charming, I think our foreign policy needs to serve our own national interests first and foremost, and not Israel's. Our blind and unwavering support of Israel doesn't do us any good when you figure that 20% of the world population is Muslim and 2/3 of world oil is controlled by Muslim countries. It seems the only necessity in blindly supporting Israel is that it appears essential to an American politician's ambitions.

I'd support a bit of Realpolitik when it comes to our relations to the Muslim world.