Obama kicks ass.

piece-itpete · #1 06-08-2010, 01:32 PM

Bet you never thought I'd say that! It's a big f'in deal lol.

Pete

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/...ama/index.html

Charles · #2 06-08-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Bet you never thought I'd say that! It's a big f'in deal lol.

Pete

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/...ama/index.html

A longshoreman in another life?

Nah, just a metaphor for the great unwashed. Does anyone really thing he's gonna kick the asses of the people who hold the purse strings?

If he tries, he'll find out just what being a puppet is.

Chas

d-ray657 · #3 06-08-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles

A longshoreman in another life?

Nah, just a metaphor for the great unwashed. Does anyone really thing he's gonna kick the asses of the people who hold the purse strings?

If he tries, he'll find out just what being a puppet is.

Chas

It's a lot harder to buy the President than in it a congressman. Unless he is bought and sold before he enters the white house, he's already earned his stripes by getting in the oval office. I think most of his constituency harbors bad feelings toward BP, and their money is not going to change that.

Regards,

D-Ray

JJIII · #4 06-08-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

It's a lot harder to buy the President than in is a congressman. Unless he is bought and sold before he enters the white house

Regards,

D-Ray

Now there's a thought!

d-ray657 · #5 06-08-2010, 10:57 PM

Do any of you think Obama is beholden to BP - or to any oil giant for that matter.

I agree that the corporocrats have their hooks into most members of congress to one extent or another, but I think the way Obama went about his fundraising and campaigning left him somewhat free of special interest influence. You can see that the left, who were likely his biggest supporters have not had their wish list at the top of his agenda. He hasn't pushed the Free Choice bill, he compromised the health care bill nearly to death, he increased the troops in Afghanistan (a campaign promise that many of the supporters on the left probably ignored), and he hasn't moved with the speed expected in getting out of Iraq and Gitmo. Indeed, Obama is nowhere near that leftist that the right wing purveyors of misinformation portray him to be.

His walk down the middle of the road is the track he intended to travel all along. In no way, however, do I see it as obedience to corporate masters.

Regards,

D-Ray

piece-itpete · #6 06-09-2010, 08:59 AM

If he's not beholden, why didn't he vet his enforcement agencies before he announced expanded 'drill baby drill' operations two weeks before the well went south?

Pete

piece-itpete · #7 06-09-2010, 11:19 AM

OUCH!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...oil-spill.html

Pete

Boreas · #8 06-09-2010, 11:47 AM

I'm not happy admitting I'm reduced to this kind of argument but I am, to wit:

Would you rather have McCain and Palin in there?

Face it, folks, the system is broken. It's simply not possible to win elective office any more without selling out to the corporatocracy. It just takes too much money.

Of course, then you have candidates who actually are the corporatocracy like Bloomberg and now like Carly Fiorina. Fiorina, the former (fired) CEO of Hewlett Packard, just spent $80 million to win the Republican senatorial primary here in California. She raised only $9 million in contributions and coughed up $71 million of her own money.

John

piece-itpete · #9 06-09-2010, 02:04 PM

Great post!

But yes I'd rather have McCain, and he's still alive

Money money money. On the one hand it's a nice thought, that having your own money frees them from special interest pressure.

On the other hand, what if they go off the reservation.

Pete

Boreas · #10 06-09-2010, 08:24 PM

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Great post!

Well, maybe almost a great post. I got it wrong. It wasn't Carly who spent 71 million of her own scratch to win her primary. It was Meg Whitman to win the gubernatorial primary. Whitman is the founder of that damned auction site.

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But yes I'd rather have McCain, and he's still alive

McCain, in my opinion, has revealed himself to be utterly without principles. He has reversed himself on virtually every position he has ever held. Add to that the astounding lack of judgment he showed in selecting Palin as his Vee Pee and you have man who would have been a complete disaster as president.

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Money money money. On the one hand it's a nice thought, that having your own money frees them from special interest pressure.

The people with that kind of scratch are the special interests

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On the other hand, what if they go off the reservation.

Pete

General Crook?

John