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11-09-2010, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HatchetJack
Noon, you are right we need job creation. I am not against raising taxes when
needed but the economy is so stagnant now is not the time. I think a better
way would be to create jobs due to demand. In order to do that we have to
have product shortages. A grass roots movement to buy American would be
great but I do not know how to start that trend with this generation of
consumers. Someone in power needs to man up and put a stop to all these
imported products that send our wealth to other countries or foreign
corporations. There needs to be better incentives for American companies
to hire Americans and do business here. Paying 40 -50% or more in taxes
and trying to compete with foreign countries sent them over there to begin
with. I think once we get Americans back to work and generating income
there will be money available for bridges and roads ect... I know most of
you are against an American business profiting at the expense of American
workers but really the only way to get back to where we were is to get back
to where we were. Back up and punt and start playing defense again. The
trick offense or economy didn't work. But whatever go ahead and slice and
dice my comments however you guys see fit.
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We know American Corps will not hire nor source America so giving "incentives" to American corps will not work. The best way to create demand is to put money in the hands of those who will spend it. That would be the unemployed or lowest income folks. The wealthy will simple add to their savings which only helps them and not the country. So if we put the unemployed to work we stimulate the economy and get things but at the same time which is another free ride for private corps. Win win.
Of course now is the time to raise taxes. The people that are working can live without a frw extra dollars and the few extra dollars would put folks to work. Putting those folks to work would stimulate the economy. If we give big business incentives half the money is wasted and goes straight to profits. If the government does it we get all our monies worth.
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11-08-2010, 05:34 PM
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Good a plan as any. Let's take a closer look at the plan the Republicans have offered in the wake of their "historic victory" last week. Let's see they plan to... Um. Their plan includes... What they've suggested is...
Oh, wait. They don't have any plan. I forgot.
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11-08-2010, 05:56 PM
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Just for the record folks, "too" is the word to use when comparing the degree of something - size, length, repetition, etc - to the expected proportion. For example, something that is larger than it should be is too large. Sorry, the editor in me couldn't be held back any longer.
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D-Ray
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11-09-2010, 06:13 AM
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Just for the record folks, "too" is the word to use when comparing the degree of something - size, length, repetition, etc - to the expected proportion. For example, something that is larger than it should be is too large. Sorry, the editor in me couldn't be held back any longer.
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language is the art of communication and I find whichever is used the idea is conveyed just fine
you should agree toooooooooooo
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11-08-2010, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie
Good a plan as any. Let's take a closer look at the plan the Republicans have offered in the wake of their "historic victory" last week. Let's see they plan to... Um. Their plan includes... What they've suggested is...
Oh, wait. They don't have any plan. I forgot.
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We can see how well that unspecified "hope and change" has worked out.
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11-08-2010, 07:36 PM
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We can see how well that unspecified "hope and change" has worked out.
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So you finally noticed how the changes made by this Administration and Congress (with a nod to the Fed) avoided a depression and saved capitalism (dammit), including the nation's most visible manufacturers, the auto companies.
There's hope for you yet.
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11-08-2010, 09:11 PM
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So you finally noticed how the changes made by this Administration and Congress (with a nod to the Fed) avoided a depression and saved capitalism (dammit), including the nation's most visible manufacturers, the auto companies.
There's hope for you yet.
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This is a President, surrounded by a team of advisers, that has never produced a product, managed an enterprise more complicated than, say, a lemonade stand, and never hired, managed or fired a single employee, yet we're asked to believe that they single-handedly saved the economy and capitalism.
Yea, that's me, falling out of the turnip truck!
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11-08-2010, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
This is a President, surrounded by a team of advisers, that has never produced a product, managed an enterprise more complicated than, say, a lemonade stand, and never hired, managed or fired a single employee, yet we're asked to believe that they single-handedly saved the economy and capitalism.
Yea, that's me, falling out of the turnip truck!
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It seems that our first MBA President got us into this mess. Yep, the same one who engaged in insider trading with Harken Energy and whose biggest corporate donor was Enron.
http://alaric3rh.home.sprynet.com/science/bceo.html
I'll take intelligent but inexperienced over an ignorant failure any day of the week.
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11-08-2010, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
This is a President, surrounded by a team of advisers, that has never produced a product, managed an enterprise more complicated than, say, a lemonade stand, and never hired, managed or fired a single employee,
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Gee, compared to that, a failed oil company and a baseball team sound pretty impressive. Maybe we can get someone who served half a term as Gov. of a state with fewer people than a decent sized city next.
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11-08-2010, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
This is a President, surrounded by a team of advisers, that has never produced a product, managed an enterprise more complicated than, say, a lemonade stand, and never hired, managed or fired a single employee, yet we're asked to believe that they single-handedly saved the economy and capitalism.
Yea, that's me, falling out of the turnip truck!
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No, not single handedly, that's ridiculous.
But when the next Republican Superhero steps into the Presidential phonebooth and straps on his/her cape, suddenly the notion of a singular saviour in the form of an Oval Office occupant will become perfectly reasonable.
Won't it, my friend?
Dave
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And don't try to tell me otherwise. Because that's about all we hear from the right is about how Saint Ronnie single handedly saved not just America, but the entire world, ferfuksake.
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