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Old 03-20-2018, 01:11 PM
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Potentially, everyone does under the second, including the village idiot and the county homicidal maniac by assumption.
Pretty sure convicted murderers and other know miscreants don't have the right to bear arms in any state and the 2nd doesn't prohibit this and other constitutional legislative restrictions on firearm ownership.
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:16 PM
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Depends on the church, quite a few wanted a venal self-identified unapologetic pussygrabbing profligate liar in the Oval.
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:19 PM
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Interesting, until now I didn't perceive you as a gun worshipping redneck. But since you just implied being one who am I to argue.
Interesting. Until now I didn't know you clung to absurd stereotypes.
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:33 PM
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Interesting. Until now I didn't know you clung to absurd stereotypes.
To which stereotype am I clinging? Before answering you might reread the excerpt finnbow quoted in the OP which is the basis of my riff on your reply to his post.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:38 PM
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Since he doesn't appear to know, I'll tell you again. Self defense and being able to fight a tyrant who is taking over our nation, which Trump clearly isn't. These two rights remain until the Supremes sing otherwise.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:19 PM
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The second amendment has nothing to do with either self-defense or hunting. It contemplates an armed populace to enable said populace to form militias, for, it is assumed, defense of liberty against enemies foreign or domestic. The assumption is faulty, and the amendment is nothing but trouble. But we're stuck with it.

The well-regulated part, to my mind, allows any level of sensible gun control for cause, if the political will is there, as long as militias not under federal control can still operate. Persons patently unfit for militia service could be denied the right to bear arms.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:53 PM
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Wrong.
Pray tell us then. Or are you saying you actually don't know as oppossed to appearing not to?
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:03 PM
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Pretty sure convicted murderers and other know miscreants don't have the right to bear arms in any state and the 2nd doesn't prohibit this and other constitutional legislative restrictions on firearm ownership.
"Infringement"? Who decides? The NRA?
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:56 PM
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Our legislatures and courts determine when an individual's right to bear arms is restricted.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:11 PM
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Our legislatures and courts determine when an individual's right to bear arms is restricted.
So, legislating infringement is permissible.
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