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Old 12-13-2022, 03:51 AM
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Which implies that the militias are infiltrated.
It fairly simple mathematics.

Oath Keepers membership; 38,000

DHS agents in Oath Keepers; 300 (maybe 1200).
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:03 AM
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Which implies that the militias are infiltrated.
Uh, no. It means that that law enforcement and national security agencies are infiltrated by militias.
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:43 AM
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BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:44 AM
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BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
You would think that would be obvious.
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Old 12-13-2022, 08:04 AM
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BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
Sure, but that was not the point of the cited article. In fact, due to the lack of American law dealing with "domestic terrorism," the ability of law enforcement to monitor militia groups is severely restricted compared to its ability to monitor international terrorists. Republicans strongly oppose any laws that would allow investigation of and reporting on right-wing domestic terrorism (by far the biggest faction of domestic terrorists). After all, these militias (and those who support their ideology) are a big part of the GOP base.
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Old 12-13-2022, 08:09 AM
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I know where the local DHS is located. I'm reviewing my training videos now.

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Old 12-13-2022, 08:20 AM
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In fact, due to the lack of American law dealing with "domestic terrorism," the ability of law enforcement to monitor militia groups is severely restricted compared to its ability to monitor international terrorists.
Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
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Old 12-13-2022, 08:33 AM
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Time to outlaw these militants, er militias. Their only function seems to be to oppose the government, or at least the parts they don't like.
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Old 12-13-2022, 09:27 AM
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Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
I don't believe so without a court order. LE can watch a building for nefarious activities but cannot tail a person without reasonable cause.
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Old 12-13-2022, 01:41 PM
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Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
Not true. For example, the FBI cannot get wiretap or search warrants for militia members simply because of membership in the group. They can, however, for members of foreign terrorist organizations.
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