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12-13-2022, 03:51 AM
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Which implies that the militias are infiltrated.
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It fairly simple mathematics.
Oath Keepers membership; 38,000
DHS agents in Oath Keepers; 300 (maybe 1200).
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12-13-2022, 07:03 AM
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Which implies that the militias are infiltrated.
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Uh, no. It means that that law enforcement and national security agencies are infiltrated by militias.
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12-13-2022, 07:43 AM
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BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
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12-13-2022, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
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You would think that would be obvious.
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12-13-2022, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
BOTH infiltrations can happen at once! And I continue to view one of the two as a good thing in general....
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Sure, but that was not the point of the cited article. In fact, due to the lack of American law dealing with "domestic terrorism," the ability of law enforcement to monitor militia groups is severely restricted compared to its ability to monitor international terrorists. Republicans strongly oppose any laws that would allow investigation of and reporting on right-wing domestic terrorism (by far the biggest faction of domestic terrorists). After all, these militias (and those who support their ideology) are a big part of the GOP base.
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Last edited by finnbow; 12-13-2022 at 08:08 AM.
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12-13-2022, 08:09 AM
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I know where the local DHS is located. I'm reviewing my training videos now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0
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12-13-2022, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
In fact, due to the lack of American law dealing with "domestic terrorism," the ability of law enforcement to monitor militia groups is severely restricted compared to its ability to monitor international terrorists.
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Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
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12-13-2022, 08:33 AM
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Time to outlaw these militants, er militias. Their only function seems to be to oppose the government, or at least the parts they don't like.
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12-13-2022, 09:27 AM
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Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
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I don't believe so without a court order. LE can watch a building for nefarious activities but cannot tail a person without reasonable cause.
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12-13-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
Not. They use the same technology in the States, they just can't use the evidence in court.
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Not true. For example, the FBI cannot get wiretap or search warrants for militia members simply because of membership in the group. They can, however, for members of foreign terrorist organizations.
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