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10-14-2014, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Sales tax is regressive, it affects the poor the worst.
Pete
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So?
This is your chance to stick it to the 47% that are "takers".
Isn't that what you baggers want?
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10-15-2014, 12:16 AM
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It sounds far better if one believes that this was accomplished without any regulation and purely by market forces. There is a nasty acronym that some on the right are not very fond of, CAFE. Of course if OPEC drives down the price of oil to a level where shale oil and fracking are no longer profitable, it could get interesting.
Long term trend to EV's and electricity generation using natural gas can make the US closer to becoming energy independent.
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10-15-2014, 07:05 AM
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The article I posted quoted the factors that the market analysts believe are impacting prices. Now, there's no question that demand is down, but the drivers for the reduction in demand that are impacting current pricing are apparently not, for example, pending CAFE standards. From the article:
Weak Europe weighs Brent
The IEA's supply forecast is "piling on'' already weak economic data from Europe, said analyst Phil Flynn of Prices Futures Group in Chicago. " Numbers out of Europe show deflationary pressures are extending even into the UK."
Germany's economy could shrink in the third quarter, but any recession, as defined by two or more consecutive quarters of declining output, should not last long, the chief economist of think tank ZEW said.
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10-15-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
The article I posted quoted the factors that the market analysts believe are impacting prices. Now, there's no question that demand is down, but the drivers for the reduction in demand that are impacting current pricing are apparently not, for example, pending CAFE standards. From the article:
Weak Europe weighs Brent
The IEA's supply forecast is "piling on'' already weak economic data from Europe, said analyst Phil Flynn of Prices Futures Group in Chicago. " Numbers out of Europe show deflationary pressures are extending even into the UK."
Germany's economy could shrink in the third quarter, but any recession, as defined by two or more consecutive quarters of declining output, should not last long, the chief economist of think tank ZEW said.
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And the current economic downturn in Europe resulted from their "austerity" approach to recovery from the last downturn (the incorrect approach also supported by the GOP).
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10-15-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
And the current economic downturn in Europe resulted from their "austerity" approach to recovery from the last downturn (the incorrect approach also supported by the GOP).
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Yep, stupid is as stupid does.
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10-15-2014, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
And the current economic downturn in Europe resulted from their "austerity" approach to recovery from the last downturn (the incorrect approach also supported by the GOP).
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Europe is real smart...it imposes sanctions in time of recession.
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10-15-2014, 10:01 AM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Sales tax is regressive, it affects the poor the worst.
Pete
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I hear you!
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10-15-2014, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
So?
This is your chance to stick it to the 47% that are "takers".
Isn't that what you baggers want?
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Oh absolutely. I just didn't realize we were together on this
Pete
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10-15-2014, 11:30 AM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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Funny how success = spending Europe certainly couldn't be faltering under the weight of too much taxation, regulation and other government interference.
Pete
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10-15-2014, 12:25 PM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Europe certainly couldn't be faltering under the weight of too much taxation, regulation and other government interference.
Pete
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Greece was a typical example.
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