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11-27-2013, 09:24 AM
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I'm not a Papist, not even a very good Christian, (As you have noted, I'm sure.). But, I do believe in credit where credit is due and to the Pope I give credit for speaking the truth. As for the acolytes of unbridled greed and "trickle down" economics, I give credit for the struggling world economy and the "race to the bottom". I thank them for------nothing.
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11-27-2013, 09:36 AM
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... (As you have noted, I'm sure.). ...
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Say it ain't so!!
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11-27-2013, 09:38 AM
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The pope is a Jesuit and the right has been killing in the past decades such active catholic priests and nuns in Central and South America.
That Francis should come to power is a miracle. I guess it was frustration from the numerous scandals.
Check the life of this Priest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Romero
Last edited by Dondilion; 11-27-2013 at 09:44 AM.
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11-27-2013, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
So one of the world's leading economists chimes in on "trickle-down" economics.: rolleyes:
Actually, this should surprise no one. The Catholic church for years has been pretty far to the left with its views on economics / wealth (re) distribution.
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By all means keep bash away!
We only won the Catholic vote by 50-48 last time and when you take out the Hispanics we lost the white Catholic vote by 59-40.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholi..._United_States
So we could stand to have you alienate some of them our way.
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11-27-2013, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
To cut to the chase, if an omniscient, omnipotent God, knowing everything that was going to happen, created the world the way it is on purpose, I cannot forgive Him.
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Near as I recall He gave us free will and a good rule to live by, as Rabbi Hillel put it
"That which is distasteful to you do not do unto others, that is the law the rest is mere commentary."
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11-27-2013, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
The pope is a Jesuit and the right has been killing in the past decades such active catholic priests and nuns in Central and South America.
That Francis should come to power is a miracle. I guess it was frustration from the numerous scandals.
Check the life of this Priest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Romero
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Ahhh, yes-those Jesuits are the smartest kids on the block and a constant source of irritation to those who would build 'butter' cathedrals.
My Irish Catholic better half was amazed and gratified that a Jesuit was chosen for the top job.
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11-27-2013, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
By all means keep bash away!
We only won the Catholic vote by 50-48 last time and when you take out the Hispanics we lost the white Catholic vote by 59-40.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholi..._United_States
So we could stand to have you alienate some of them our way.
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I'm not referring to how Catholics at large voted. I'm referring to the leadership of the Church: from the Vatican right through to the many of the ordained. Just hang out on any given Catholic church for a string of Sundays and listen to when comes from the pulpit. About the only divergence you'll find from standard left-wing dogma is on the subjects of abortion and birth control. Most everything else is aligned with the article in the OP.
This isn't a criticism, by the way. It just "is what it is."
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11-27-2013, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Near as I recall He gave us free will and a good rule to live by, as Rabbi Hillel put it
"That which is distasteful to you do not do unto others, that is the law the rest is mere commentary."
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1. We don't follow that a lot, and he knew we wouldn't from the get-go.
2. Lots of bad things happen that cannot be reasonably attributed to rule violations.
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11-28-2013, 06:33 AM
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1. We don't follow that a lot, and he knew we wouldn't from the get-go.
2. Lots of bad things happen that cannot be reasonably attributed to rule violations.
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DQ my own father likely knew that I would disappoint him from time to time as I am sure that I did, but he never stopped loving me. Did not mean that what he told me to do was wrong.
On your second point sure; at the age of ten I got into an argument with a speeding truck. The truck won and I spent a month in traction, then another month in a full body cast, as the bumper sticker says excrement occurs.
We love our children but there comes a time when they leave the nest and your heart aches at what life does to them sometines but there is nowt you can do.
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11-28-2013, 07:30 AM
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DQ my own father likely knew that I would disappoint him from time to time as I am sure that I did, but he never stopped loving me. Did not mean that what he told me to do was wrong.
On your second point sure; at the age of ten I got into an argument with a speeding truck. The truck won and I spent a month in traction, then another month in a full body cast, as the bumper sticker says excrement occurs.
We love our children but there comes a time when they leave the nest and your heart aches at what life does to them sometines but there is nowt you can do.
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Well, there's not much point in chopping logic here. Had the whole thing down to sawdust ages ago.
I still find it to be a wonderful life. Let's celebrate.
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