Quran vs Bible

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Does the Quran have any revisionist scripture, such as the New Testament scriptures especially the life of Christ with its "turn the cheek" mantra?

Not to my knowledge and it still thinks women are second class people. I don't believe that twelve should be the age of consent.

As to the New Testament look in the first book of John, Chapter 4, verse 8. It was more than 'turn the other cheek'.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Not to my knowledge and it still thinks women are second class people. I don't believe that twelve should be the age of consent.

What do you mean by "it"? Can an "it" "believe"? Perhaps you mean that doctrine prescribing the subjugation of women can be found in the Quran and that some Muslims practice it. That's very true.

As it happens, the same sorts of things can be found in the Bible and both ultra-conservative Jews and fundamental Christians believe and practice all that too.

Of course, it's also true that there many Jews, Christians and Muslims who firmly reject those teachings but it's not much fun to acknowledge that fact.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What do you mean by "it"? Can an "it" "believe"? Perhaps you mean that doctrine prescribing the subjugation of women can be found in the Quran and that some Muslims practice it. That's very true.

As it happens, the same sorts of things can be found in the Bible and both ultra-conservative Jews and fundamental Christians believe and practice all that too.

Of course, it's also true that there many Jews, Christians and Muslims who firmly reject those teachings but it's not much fun to acknowledge that fact.

Where in the New Testament? I reject the Old Testament totally.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Where in the New Testament? I reject the Old Testament totally.

I never said anything about the New Testament. Also, not all Christians reject the OT as you do.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I never said anything about the New Testament. Also, not all Christians reject the OT as you do.

What other people do is not my problem. I live as I believe that I should and treat others as I would be treated. Rabbi Hillel put it rather succinctly 'That which is distasteful to you do not do unto others - that is the whole law the rest is mere commentary'.

You see John I have studied several beliefs and I think I have learned from them. If others cannot learn there is very little that I can do to help them.

I do know that what I did learn enabled me to give a good woman the happiest years of her life so perhaps that amounts to something.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

What other people do is not my problem.

Apparently, you do have a problem with what some other people believe. For instance, it matters to you that some Muslims treat women abominably but, when some Christians and some Jews behave in a similar fashion, it doesn't concern you.

We're talking about injustice here. Injustice is injustice, no matter who perpetrates it or what inspires it.

I live as I believe that I should and treat others as I would be treated.

The treatment of others encompasses how you speak of them. Somehow, I doubt you would wish to be spoken of in the same way that, at every opportunity, you speak of Muslims. If you're going to claim the moral high ground, it's best if you actually occupy it.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Apparently, you do have a problem with what some other people believe. For instance, it matters to you that some Muslims treat women abominable but, when some Christians and some Jews behave in a similar fashion, it doesn't concern you.

Because the Muslims in question accosted my wife, otherwise I am indifferent to their conduct. No Christian or Jew ever acted that way toward her.