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04-15-2024, 12:54 PM
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Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.
The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.
That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.
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04-15-2024, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.
The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.
That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.
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Henry Ford built cars that the average person could afford. Elon targeted wealthy liberals. Not smart. His Cybertruck is a joke.
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04-15-2024, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.
The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.
That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.
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A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals. Now nearly every vehicle manufacturer has multiple EV models and those manufacturers haven't alienated their potential buyers by embracing far-right ideology and conspiracy theories.
As for Mexico, pretty much all the big manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, Volkswagen) have a significant presence there already. And the Tesla's Cybertruck makes one wonder if Elon is still serious about making desirable vehicles.
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04-16-2024, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals.
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A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.
I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.
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04-16-2024, 08:02 AM
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Reformed Know-Nothing
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Originally Posted by Human
A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.
I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.
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Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.
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04-16-2024, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.
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Yes, conservative ≠ MAGA wingnut.
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04-16-2024, 07:27 PM
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There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.
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04-17-2024, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
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I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.
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04-21-2024, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigElCat
There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.
I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.
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Hi BigElCat,
If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....
https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233
Last edited by init4fun; 04-21-2024 at 07:37 AM.
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