Keeping the peace

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I've said this before but, really, radical right wing Christians have been directing their followers to join the military and police for a long time now. It's all about the Army of Light versus the Army of Darkness. These people are very serious about this stuff. Crazy but serious.

Neo-Nazis and white supremacists have been doing the same thing for different reasons for a while too but that's another story.

John

Oh, I know. Believe me, I do. I've met some of these assholes. If you think the federal government is trying to run your life, just let these pricks gain any real power. Like my Brother says, "Christian Taliban. Didn't go to church this morning? POW! You're dead. Did I just catch you staring at your neighbors tits? POW! You're dead. Is that the Demon Liquor I smell? POW! You're Dead........."

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

A .50 M2 Browning....Mmmmmm.....(Homer Simpson glassy-eyed donut drool...) I have seen the results of what one of these things can do. There was a video put out about 20-25 years ago called "Deadly Weapons", & the guy who made it shot a "Ma Deuce" into a 1973 GM mid-size sedan. He had a 1" thick steel plate in the back seat. The Nifty Fifty tore thru the door like paper, thru the inch plate, & thru the other side door as easy as it punched thru the 1st. You MIGHT have a chance if you were in a concrete & steel reinforced modern commercial building-maybe- but a car body offers no protection at all. The car's motor block might offer some protection, but after the first shot hits the block, it's gonna be toast, too, so there. There are guys who have converted WW1 Boyes British anti-tank rifles to shoot the Fifty-and they do what is called "Mountain Pounding". The Boyes rifle looks like any other bolt-action rifle-Just a HELLUVA lot bigger. You get in the prone position on yr belly to shoot it, & it'll give you a rather strong push backwards. They put a target on top of a mountain or knoll, get a measured mile away, & shoot at their target. But yeah, for sheriff's dept defensive use, Nifty Fifties are a little, well, uhh, "Out there". Just a mite.

Understand those Boyes rifles will damn near dislocate your shoulder. I also understand that Barrett and a few others make a more refined .50 that won't knock the fillings out of your teeth.

Way too much for me, I don't even like to fire a .30-06.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh, I know. Believe me, I do. I've met some of these assholes. If you think the federal government is trying to run your life, just let these pricks gain any real power. Like my Brother says, "Christian Taliban. Didn't go to church this morning? POW! You're dead. Did I just catch you staring at your neighbors tits? POW! You're dead. Is that the Demon Liquor I smell? POW! You're Dead........."

Dave

Come on, I know there are a few right wing kooks out there, but it's no where as bad as you let on.

The one's that I know who go to church do it for appearance, or to appease the old lady, or something like that. If you've got a jug, they're offended if you don't at least offer them a drink. And if the caught you looking at your neighbor's tits, they'd share their field glasses with ya.

The vast majority of them are just like you or me. They're good people.

Bearing that in mind, perhaps I should remove "me" from the equation.

Chas

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Charles

I don't think the shooting's gonna start, but I look at things through my eyes.

Anyway, I ain't gonna start shooting. I just hope the fuzz don't start shooting up the A&P with a .50 because some slob stole a loaf of bread.

But I tend to agree, things are getting more bizarre by the day.

Chas

Chas, I swear you're a liberal. You just don't realize it.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

Come on, I know there are a few right wing kooks out there, but it's no where as bad as you let on.

The one's that I know who go to church do it for appearance, or to appease the old lady, or something like that. If you've got a jug, they're offended if you don't at least offer them a drink. And if the caught you looking at your neighbor's tits, they'd share their field glasses with ya.

The vast majority of them are just like you or me. They're good people.

Bearing that in mind, perhaps I should remove "me" from the equation.

Chas

I do tend to embellish a bit...........

Dave

[merrylander]

Probably not a lot different than back in the thirties, they just get better media coverage now. I was reading this morning where the FBI has solved all but about five of the cases of civil rights activists being murdered. There will be few if any prosecutions because of the passage of time and the killers having died.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. You are just as dead from a .38 through the heart as from a .50.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

...Another thing to keep in mind is that Nifty Fifty guns & associated paraphenalia are a pretty serious "Bucks-Up" proposition. The LEAST you can get into one is about $2500, & that'll get you somethin' that goes "Bang !". Most of these guys "Roll their Own" ammo, they can have $10-20 a PIECE in one bullet/shell. After you spend $2500 for yer "Banger", then you'll send it to a guy like Rob, EchoWars, or Terry, except they work magic w/guns, who'll massage it, & get it "On the paper", & you'll likely have another $1500-2500 in it, not to mention the super-duper scope & mount, which could be another $2K, anyhow. The 1982 Impala mouth-breathers, hell, everything they have on earth ain't worth hardly the scope...Even if you put a premium on their younger teenage daughters...Mbwahahahaha...

I suppose to each his own, but the thoughts of sighting one of those blasters in at a mile sounds like an exercise in self abuse to me. You would probably have to take a laptop loaded with ballistic tables and one hell of a rangefinder to have any chance of hitting anything at that range...or at least hitting what you're aiming at. Need a pretty good backstop too.

Think I'll just stick with my crummy .17HMR. On a nice day you can take pot shots at the standard aluminum beverage container out to a couple of hundred yards, fairly cheap to shoot, quiet, and you can be your own spotter.

That's about all of the fun I can stand.

Chas

[merrylander]

I recall an incident from when my brother was in the RCAF. They had a gun turret from a Bolton Paul Defiant used for training. This turret mounted four .30 cal machine guns and had a tendency to elevate the guns while firing. Apparently one guy was fooling around with this while it was still in the hanger. He took out a major section of one wall and the roof.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

Yeah, you gotta really WANT one of those things...Most of the guys that have 'em are really, really into 'em, & their fraternity is pretty arcane & esoteric. They're more into seeing if they can get 2 shots thru one hole at a mile than they are at wanting to take over the world...I looked into getting a Barrett semi-auto-Used, that had been in a fire-and the shop wanted $3500 for it, as is, where-was. Gulp. Decided I didn't need one THAT bad...

Maybe it's just a bunch of old boys using the tax payers money to get a kick ass gun they always wanted----but couldn't afford? I'm thinkin' mebby so.

Dave

[finnbow]

Having spent a month in Bossier City in one week, I'd say there's not much there to protect. As for forming a vigilante posse armed with a .50 BMG, that's just scary
- except for those yahoos probably couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it even if they were inside it.