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12-21-2016, 07:55 PM
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Speaking of fake arguments, thank you for reminding me of the Mexican comment fake news.
Here's the text of those comments that you're referring to:
Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.
It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably -- probably -- from the Middle East. But we don't know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don't know what's happening. And it's got to stop and it's got to stop fast.
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You're defending that xenophobic drivel? Good for you. You've shown who you really are.
The notion that Mexico is sending people is unadulterated bullshit. People are indeed coming, but Mexico is not sending them. Secondly, they are not predominately rapists, criminals and drug smugglers. Were it not for them, this country's construction, agriculture and hospitality industry would all go belly up. I suppose xenophobic, racist pricks don't recognize other racist, xenophobic pricks for who they are. Actually, it seems they find them appealing, vote for them and defend them. Good for you.
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12-21-2016, 09:20 PM
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You're defending that xenophobic drivel? Good for you. You've shown who you really are.
The notion that Mexico is sending people is unadulterated bullshit. People are indeed coming, but Mexico is not sending them. Secondly, they are not predominately rapists, criminals and drug smugglers. Were it not for them, this country's construction, agriculture and hospitality industry would all go belly up. I suppose xenophobic, racist pricks don't recognize other racist, xenophobic pricks for who they are. Actually, it seems they find them appealing, vote for them and defend them. Good for you.
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You have an issue with the stats from ICE, take it up with ICE. Defending the words? No. Demonstrating how those words were serially mischaracterized? Yup.
You keep spinning like that Finn and WaPo might just ofrer you a job. I think I was clear enough about what my point was. You must have worked pretty hard to miss it.
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12-21-2016, 09:25 PM
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Still spinning your wheels in this dishonest and ridiculous thread Mike? Do you own the rights to PoliticalChat.com?
(pssst, this site is a .org my clueless friend.
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12-22-2016, 07:44 AM
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You have an issue with the stats from ICE, take it up with ICE. Defending the words? No. Demonstrating how those words were serially mischaracterized? Yup.
You keep spinning like that Finn and WaPo might just ofrer you a job. I think I was clear enough about what my point was. You must have worked pretty hard to miss it.
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You've characterized deserved criticism of Trump's xenophobic, racist clarion call as fake news. Defending his indefensible words is beneath contempt and you have discarded all pretense for why it is you support Trump. Gonna burn a cross in your front yard as a Christmas decoration?
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12-21-2016, 03:07 PM
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Those Trump remarks were crap and six paragraphs of pretzel logoc (and doubling down) can't clean up the emotional smack Trump was delivering, to the lasting and severe harm to America. Trump normalized hate.
"They're sending...." It xenophobia deluxe, no matter what little disclaimers he was careful to squeeze in. Nothing was faked. Everybody got the real message.
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12-21-2016, 03:48 PM
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Those Trump remarks were crap and six paragraphs of pretzel logoc (and doubling down) can't clean up the emotional smack Trump was delivering, to the lasting and severe harm to America. Trump normalized hate.
"They're sending...." It xenophobia deluxe, no matter what little disclaimers he was careful to squeeze in. Nothing was faked. Everybody got the real message.
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Well, you can inject your own bias and make inferences about what Trump said, like you're doing above and apparently like the media did. If you want to do that, as someone who is not a member of the media, that's fine and dandy. If someone who purports to report news objectively writes a news story and injects their own biases with the objective of misrepresenting those comments, that's fake news.
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12-21-2016, 04:34 PM
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Well, you can inject your own bias and make inferences about what Trump said, like you're doing above and apparently like the media did. If you want to do that, as someone who is not a member of the media, that's fine and dandy. If someone who purports to report news objectively writes a news story and injects their own biases with the objective of misrepresenting those comments, that's fake news.
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Everything the NY Times inserted into their report about the Mexican rapists stuff in Trump's announcement speech. Anything fake in it?
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On Tuesday, he vowed to build a “great wall” on the Mexican border to keep out rapists and other criminals, who he said were sneaking into the United States in droves.
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Everything the Washington post inserted into their report about the Mexican rapists stuff in Trump's announcement speech. Anything fake in it?
Everything that ABCNews,com inserted into their report about the Mexican rapists stuff in Trump's announcement speech. Anything fake in it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/us...l-he-says.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.17c00c3810dd
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=31799741
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12-21-2016, 06:25 PM
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Look at the links in the Salon article.
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12-21-2016, 06:32 PM
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Look at the links in the Salon article.
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I'm interested, but what Salon article?
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12-22-2016, 09:23 AM
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Not to be contradictory, but sewer rats really don't deserve to be put in the same bin with Trump supporters. They aren't being hateful and mean for the sport of it.....
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