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Boreas, forgive me for my last quote. It sounded rude. Sorry bout that.
Help me make some sense out of this though. According to my figures, people haven't had all these thousands and thousands of years to evolve. Bible is complex, and ya'll know by now it's alot for me to try to take in with poor learning skills, but, from what I 'think' I understand is man is only 2,000 years old since the flood. Even originating in one place and then migrating to new lands, wouldn't we still speak the same language we spoke before splitting up? How many different languages were called aboard the ark? Alot to me doesn't make very much sense.
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07-05-2010, 05:45 PM
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Help me make some sense out of this though. According to my figures, people haven't had all these thousands and thousands of years to evolve. Bible is complex, and ya'll know by now it's alot for me to try to take in with poor learning skills, but, from what I 'think' I understand is man is only 2,000 years old since .
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We need to ask Sarah!
She says man and dinosaurs walked earth together, just like in the movies and dinosaurs go back millions of years.
This guy Dr. Kent Hovind real real smart, like Sarah!
Here he explains it to us just like Sarah would.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2951687298593#
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07-05-2010, 06:14 PM
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We need to ask Sarah!
She says man and dinosaurs walked earth together, just like in the movies and dinosaurs go back millions of years.
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If humans and dinosaurs didn't coexist then how did Fred Flintstone get any work done?
John
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07-05-2010, 06:17 PM
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We need to ask Sarah!
She says man and dinosaurs walked earth together, just like in the movies and dinosaurs go back millions of years.
This guy Dr. Kent Hovind real real smart, like Sarah!
Here he explains it to us just like Sarah would.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2951687298593#
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OMG, the Christian Right never ceases to amaze. At least this friggin' moron has been locked up for a decade before he can brainwash more gullible goobers.
And we think the Taliban's crazy. His kind in our midst frightens me more than any Middle Eastern cave-dweller.
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07-05-2010, 07:46 PM
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And we think the Taliban's crazy. His kind in our midst frightens me more than any Middle Eastern cave-dweller.
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But, John, that's why God gave us nukes, B2s, smart bombs and Predator drones. So that our crazies can do even more damage than their crazies when the religious warfare shit finally hits the heavenly fan. We're on the road to glory, my brother, and the tour guides are a bunch of whacko cult zealots with nuclear aspirations, spurred on by the voices in their heads and their unshakable love of the Celestial Tooth Fairy.
Geez, get with the program, son!
Dave
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07-05-2010, 08:24 PM
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Hovind's mess puts him up there with other career criminals like Al Capone. They can't get him for his main scheme, but they can get him for tax evasion. If he had just paid his taxes, he might have had a big career in politics. He can obfuscate with the best/worst of them.
What he was doing seems little different with what Madison Avenue and Wall Street do, albeit Hovind is much sloppier. Lock em all up and let some honest people run things - if Diogenes can find some for us.
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07-05-2010, 09:54 PM
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And we think the Taliban's crazy. His kind in our midst frightens me more than any Middle Eastern cave-dweller.
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that is exactly how I feel. To see these young adults "learning" from him is frightful and also very sad.
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07-05-2010, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
We need to ask Sarah!
She says man and dinosaurs walked earth together, just like in the movies and dinosaurs go back millions of years.
This guy Dr. Kent Hovind real real smart, like Sarah!
Here he explains it to us just like Sarah would.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2951687298593#
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What a clown! At one point in this talk he said that Noah probably didn't need to take both a horse a zebra on the ark because "probably the horse and the zebra had a common ancestor. I wouldn't argue about that but it was... it looked like a horse."
Okay, Einstein. So if Noah didn't take zebras and horses on the ark but took their "common ancestor" what happened to the common ancestor? Did it evolve into horses and zebras? Oh, wait! There's no such thing as evolution! I'm so confused!
John
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07-06-2010, 08:45 AM
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What a clown! At one point in this talk he said that Noah probably didn't need to take both a horse a zebra on the ark because "probably the horse and the zebra had a common ancestor. I wouldn't argue about that but it was... it looked like a horse."
Okay, Einstein. So if Noah didn't take zebras and horses on the ark but took their "common ancestor" what happened to the common ancestor? Did it evolve into horses and zebras? Oh, wait! There's no such thing as evolution! I'm so confused!
John
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Noah was way smart to, like Sarah and him. After all he lived to 900 years old.
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07-05-2010, 06:13 PM
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Boreas, forgive me for my last quote. It sounded rude. Sorry bout that.
Help me make some sense out of this though. According to my figures, people haven't had all these thousands and thousands of years to evolve. Bible is complex, and ya'll know by now it's alot for me to try to take in with poor learning skills, but, from what I 'think' I understand is man is only 2,000 years old since the flood. Even originating in one place and then migrating to new lands, wouldn't we still speak the same language we spoke before splitting up? How many different languages were called aboard the ark? Alot to me doesn't make very much sense.
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Well, the flood was supposed to have been long before the time of Christ and He lived 2000 years ago. Back in the 1600s an Anglican Archbishop named James Ussher sat down with the Old and New Testaments and set out to discover the age of the Earth. Ussher determined that the Earth was born the night before Sunday, October 23, 4,004 BC. So the Earth is coming up on it's 6,014th birthday. As you will probably guess, I think this is complete and utter nonsense.
There is something interesting about the world 6,000 years ago. It's the time that people began to organize themselves into complex societies, the basis for the way we live today. It's when people started systematically keeping historical records. This happened in the Middle East, the land which the Old Testament talks about. So, the Prophets and Patriarchs of the Hebrews wouldn't have had access to information older than around 6,000 years.
What you're talking about above is pretty much the Creationist argument for world history and I'm not surprised that you say it doesn't make much sense to you. That's because it doesn't make much sense. The Bible was never intended to be an historical or scientific document. The fact that some folks try to make it into one has caused a lot of trouble.
Anyway, according to anthropologists, the oldest known direct ancestors of modern humans lived around 4.5 million years ago. They weren't human. Scientists call them "hominids" which more or less means "like humans". By that time the earth was already very old (around 4 billion years old).
The first humans, beginning with Homo habilis ("handy man"), appeared around 2.5 million years ago. They were really primitive. They didn't really look like us very much but they walked erect, had culture, made tools, etc. There were several other steps on the way, finally getting to Homo sapiens (us) a little less than 100,000 years ago.
The thing is, an all-powerful God who has existed for all time could have created the world in any way and at any time He chose to. To insist that He did it in a way that we humans can understand, at a time which placed us in the world from its beginnings and especially in a way specifically designed for our benefit, is just human arrogance.
John
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