"EPA to propose cutting carbon-dioxide emissions from coal plants up to 30% by 2030"

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Poor DJ, some local skinhead surfers scare you so bad that you moved to Phoenix? Sounds like you jumped into a mosh pit and everyone stepped aside and let you land on your face.

Fuck you assfuck. You just can't stop can you boba bitch?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Fuck you assfuck. You just can't stop can you boba bitch?

Meh, you called me and every other Californio a "dumbfuck", so what do you expect? Nice? Dream on dude.

[djv8ga]

Funny how so many who claim to care about the environment live in the smoggiest state (CA.) in the union & refuse to take blame for causing it.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Funny how so many who claim to care about the environment live in the smoggiest state (CA.) in the union & refuse to take blame for causing it.

It's not funny at all. Those with bad air quality want better air quality.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It's not funnier at all. Those with bad air quality want better air quality.

But they act as if everyone else is the problem. Hell, we produce a lot of Cali's power at Palo Verde. If they had to make that power themselves, they might feel a little different about things.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

But they act as if everyone else is the problem. Hell, we produce a lot of Cali's power at Palo Verde. If they had to make that power themselves, they might feel a little different about things.

Palo Verde doesn't contribute anything to air pollution. In fact, "power generation operations to date at Palo Verde have offset the emission of almost 484 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide (the equivalent of taking up to 84 million cars off the road for one year); more than 253,000 tonnes of sulfur dioxide; and 618,000 tonnes of nitrogen oxide." FWIW, it's ownership also include SoCal utility companies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Ve...rating_Station

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Palo Verde doesn't contribute anything to air pollution. In fact, "power generation operations to date at Palo Verde have offset the emission of almost 484 million metric tonnes of carbon dioxide (the equivalent of taking up to 84 million cars off the road for one year); more than 253,000 tonnes of sulfur dioxide; and 618,000 tonnes of nitrogen oxide." FWIW, it's ownership also include SoCal utility companies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Ve...rating_Station

That's my point. The odds are they would supply themselves with that power from coal if P.V. didn't. It's easy to agree with all of this EPA crap unless it directly affects you.
A lot of the Anti-Nuke people also live in Ca. I know, I'm from there.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

That's my point. The odds are they would supply themselves with that power from coal if P.V. didn't. It's easy to agree with all of this EPA crap unless it directly affects you.
A lot of the Anti-Nuke people also live in Ca. I know, I'm from there.

The population of California is upwards of 39 million individuals. Speaking of that mass as a 'they' that might think or do this or that is one whopper of an abstraction. But us/them thinking is pretty much built on poorly-used abstractions.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The population of California is upwards of 39 million individuals. Speaking of that mass as a 'they' that might think or do this or that is one whopper of an abstraction. But us/them thinking is pretty much built on poorly-used abstractions.

I've lived it up front and personal..that's California. How long did you live there?

[donquixote99]

There are 39,000,000 people in California. How many do you know?