Socalled 'Right To Work' Law Repealed in Michigan

[GChief]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Problem is that kids lack knowledge and good judgment they need to negotiate risk on the job. Further, their immature judgement can make them exploitable, as can impovrishment. Unaccompanied minor immigrants who must support themselves and fall through the social welfare cracks here are highly exploited.

Farm parents can generally be trusted to try to protect their own children's safety, but strangers are more likely to be careless of it.

I get all that. That was more a smartass question for those that think teenagers should not be doing any "hard labor"...

Actually listened to an NPR report on it yesterday and the above is what many think.

And from my personal experience being a farm worker from 12-18, my family would let me die before the "strangers" I worked for.

[donquixote99]

Heard that report too.

Like many things it's a question of balance. If getting a decent education is job one for kids, work should be limited to amounts/times that will not make that impossible. Laws applied because if there's money to be made, some consider it something like their holy duty to make it, regardless of everything.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Heard that report too.

Like many things it's a question of balance. If getting a decent education is job one for kids, work should be limited to amounts/times that will not make that impossible. Laws applied because if there's money to be made, some consider it something like their holy duty to make it, regardless of everything.

Teenagers cannot file lawsuits against employers if I am not mistaken, which then can lead to employers exploit them (work safety).

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Anything people feel strongly about attracts a troll from you? Forget it, will not engage with you. Go away.

No, it was a legit observation and a legit set of facts.

Set of facts -

- states are all over the place with requiring minors to get a work permit.
- state laws can only be more strict than Federal child labor laws, which are already pretty strict.

Sorry if that bothers you.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Teenagers cannot file lawsuits against employers if I am not mistaken, which then can lead to employers exploit them (work safety).

Mnors may not have standing to file a lawsuit, but they can certainly file a claim with the state or Federal department of labor against an employer who doesn't comply with state or federal employment law.

[bobabode]

Please don't feed this troll.

[Chicks]

Someone needs to go read his Dickens, if indeed he ever did read anything in his sorry life.

[Oerets]

Having been raised on a farm with responsibilities many would call dangerous and hazardous.

I still see a need for child labor laws and the protection they afford. One may well have responsible parents watching over you on the farm. Yet there are many who are not.
Businesses with whom hire underage children are at best on the bottom in profit margins.
So more apt to cut corners and have no assets to collect on.

There were kids I went to school with who were hurt on the farm. Little was done to the parents back then. Should of been IMHO!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

No, it was a legit observation and a legit set of facts.

Set of facts -

- states are all over the place with requiring minors to get a work permit.
- state laws can only be more strict than Federal child labor laws, which are already pretty strict.

Sorry if that bothers you.

Bite me.

[Mark B]

In my opinion FLRB child labor hours regulations are very lax.

Child labor daily work hour regulations (excluding agricultural and occupations banned for children under the age of 18):

• Children under 14 years of age may not be employed in non-agricultural occupations covered by the FLSA. Permissible employment for such children is limited to work that is exempt from the FLSA (such as delivering newspapers to the consumer and acting).

• Children ages 14 and 15 cannot work before 7 a.m. or after 9 p.m., more than eight hours a day or more than 40 hours a week.

• Children ages 16 and 17 may be employed for unlimited hours in any occupation other than those declared hazardous by the Secretary of Labor