California Air Resource Board Sucks

[bhunter]

The other day I went to purchase Weldwood Contact Cement; however, due to the all knowing jackasses at the California Air Resources Board it is no longer available in California. It would be better for the environment if we tossed our illegal aliens back across the border since most of our environmental problems are a function of rampant population growth. Oh, here's the regulation:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/consprod/regs/...htm#automotive

Slightly complicated ain't it. Just because some fanatical environmentalists think VOCs released through consumer products have a terrible environmental impact—environmentalists tend to gravitate towards employment in the regulatory agencies—they ought be outlawed. There is little wonder why businesses leave California for more friendly states. Lighter fluid has become so diluted that it's difficult to start a barbecue.

Oh, I can still buy it , but only 1 ounce at a time. Thus, instead of 12.00/qt. it will be 160.00/qt.

[merrylander]

To be honest I used it once on veneer - it sucks so ever afterward I used Titebond II.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by merrylander

To be honest I used it once on veneer - it sucks so ever afterward I used Titebond II.

I could see it not working well for veneer. I used it to repair my Magnepans and for other projects when I want an instant bond. The waterborne product is not nearly as good. I just get pissed when I can no longer buy something that's been available for years because of VOC regulations, but then we have 2-Cycle gas dust blowers operating all over the state and rampant population growth.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I could see it not working well for veneer. I used it to repair my Magnepans and for other projects when I want an instant bond. The waterborne product is not nearly as good. I just get pissed when I can no longer buy something that's been available for years because of VOC regulations, but then we have 2-Cycle gas dust blowers operating all over the state and rampant population growth.

I've had a problem with the reduced quality of decking stains since VOC's are now verboten. The old VOC-based Cabot deck stains were fantastic. Water would bead up for several years. The new water based stuff sucks loudly in comparison.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by merrylander

To be honest I used it once on veneer - it sucks so ever afterward I used Titebond II.

Speaking of veneers, where did you purchase those beautiful veneers?

[Oerets]

Here they banned the sealer I used on my exposed aggregate walkway. Raised the price of the only products available.

Rattle can paint another product that use to be better before.



Barney

[merrylander]

3M makes a spray on contact cement 77 is for mooderate duty 99 is heavy duty

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

The other day I went to purchase Weldwood Contact Cement; however, due to the all knowing jackasses at the California Air Resources Board it is no longer available in California. It would be better for the environment if we tossed our illegal aliens back across the border since most of our environmental problems are a function of rampant population growth. Oh, here's the regulation:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/consprod/regs/...htm#automotive

Slightly complicated ain't it. Just because some fanatical environmentalists think VOCs released through consumer products have a terrible environmental impact—environmentalists tend to gravitate towards employment in the regulatory agencies—they ought be outlawed. There is little wonder why businesses leave California for more friendly states. Lighter fluid has become so diluted that it's difficult to start a barbecue.

Oh, I can still buy it , but only 1 ounce at a time. Thus, instead of 12.00/qt. it will be 160.00/qt.

Living in the LA basin for over four decades, I'll take the trade off of lowering volatile organic compounds, lead in gasoline and so on over anyone else's imagined right to pollute the air I breath.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Living in the LA basin for over four decades, I'll take the trade off of lowering volatile organic compounds, lead in gasoline and so on over anyone else's imagined right to pollute the air I breath.

And the use of contact cement contributes how much to the LA Basin's pollution problem? The pollution problem is a direct function of population growth. IIRC, MTBE didn't work out all that well for the environmentalists that used to push for it use as an oxygenate for fuels. I'd rather have a robust business environment here than the restrictions. It's rather ironic that silly valley is full of rabid environmentalist technical employees that are in an industry that is predicted on the use of nasty chemicals. Slowly, even biotech is finding it difficult to operate in this state. I'll predict that even biotech will be displaced shortly to more friendly states or countries. Eventually, we'll have the wealthy and nominally liberal, coastal elite and their servants with no agricultural industry, computer industry, or aerospace industry. All of this the result of the environmentalists. Do I want clean air? Of course, I have severe allergies that even restrict my movement; however, I don't think restricting products that have minimal impact is the best path.

[bobabode]

You and I both know it's the aggregate pollution load that is the problem. If we give a waver to something like contact cement? How soon do you think the paint manufacturers whould be howling for their waver? The LA basin has cleaned up the air tremendously since I was a kid, thanks to the ARB and the AQMD. They've done a pretty good job so far, IMO. I disagree strenuously that business viability and their profits trump my lifespan due to pollution.

Did you miss Merrylanders recommendation? 3M 77 & 99 are good alternatives.