GOP's AHCA aka Trump-RyanCare

[sheltiedave]

Nailer, I also know where the weaknesses are, but the bounding is valid.

As for the goading, or prompting, or begging, it is the bedrock for having effective two way conversation if both parties present their side of the facts, and go from there.

I know the FICA is what - 6.25%, stopping at $117,000? Medicare is 1.4%? Zero throws out the Sagan stars argument and repeats, repeats, repeats a lie. FICA and Medicare won't change one iota if ACA is repealed, although the 0.9% Medicare surcharge for incomes >$200,000 will be revisited.

A bounding argument is just that - it establishes an upper or lower limit, is readily understood, and the true figures are actually (in this case) a much lower annual and cumulative value.

You do not need Toto pulling the curtain aside to realize Zero is not establishing a position using published facts, facts that are available in minutes using a google search. I'll continue to probe with a pitchfork if he continues to spout without any credible backing information willingly cited.

[Chicks]

If we stuck to the facts, Zero's dear leader wouldn't have been elected. His minions simply don't care about facts.

[sheltiedave]

The dear leader has told more lies than Zero, which is quite an accomplishment.

Saying that his healthcare plan was better, cheaper, and would cover everyone, and he had it in his pocket and it would be implemented so fast.....

Care to comment, Zero?

[Chicks]

McConnell vs White House. Each blaming the other for this historic failure. Too funny.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...013701742.html

[nailer]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Nailer, I also know where the weaknesses are, but the bounding is valid.

As for the goading, or prompting, or begging, it is the bedrock for having effective two way conversation if both parties present their side of the facts, and go from there.

I know the FICA is what - 6.25%, stopping at $117,000? Medicare is 1.4%? Zero throws out the Sagan stars argument and repeats, repeats, repeats a lie. FICA and Medicare won't change one iota if ACA is repealed, although the 0.9% Medicare surcharge for incomes >$200,000 will be revisited.

A bounding argument is just that - it establishes an upper or lower limit, is readily understood, and the true figures are actually (in this case) a much lower annual and cumulative value.

You do not need Toto pulling the curtain aside to realize Zero is not establishing a position using published facts, facts that are available in minutes using a google search. I'll continue to probe with a pitchfork if he continues to spout without any credible backing information willingly cited.

I replied to post 506, not 509.

Zero is an excellent goader. It's telling that you believe goading and begging are 2/3's of the bedrock for having effective two way conversation.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Chicks

If we stuck to the facts, Zero's dear leader wouldn't have been elected. His minions simply don't care about facts.

Most voters, blue and red, don't care about facts.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by nailer

Most voters, blue and red, don't care about facts.

Is that a fact?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Is that a fact?

It's a contextually sophisticated opinion.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

Most voters, blue and red, don't care about the source of the facts.

Edited for clarity. Facts are something that is indisputable so accepting any information as fact is to not challenge them or verify the source.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Edited for clarity. Facts are something that is indisputable so accepting any information as fact is to not challenge them or verify the source.

Your edit changes the meaning and point of my post. Fact!