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Old 01-21-2015, 09:16 AM
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Since SP is managed by civil servants there is no seven figure CEQ.
"Chief Executive Quack"?

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Old 01-21-2015, 10:29 AM
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As John noted it is set atr what is considered normal average for the procedure. What you must know is that Single Payer is in effect the insurer of resort, nothing else changed from the days of private insurers. Oh except that SP negotiates the prices of prescription drugs. I had my choice of doctors and the nearest hospital was a ten minute drive away. Since SP is managed by civil servants there is no seven figure CEQ.
Thanks merrylander. I see single payer as 1) Medicare for all (a good idea) and ACA is a step to this end, and 2) nationalization of the health care insurance sector of our health care industry. However the main driver of our inflated health care cost will remain - the health providers will still be Capitalists. I can't remember his name, but an Irish rabble rouser one said something like this - I don't mind giving Capitalists one of my hands, but do they really need all of my limbs.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:04 PM
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Thanks merrylander. I see single payer as 1) Medicare for all (a good idea) and ACA is a step to this end, and 2) nationalization of the health care insurance sector of our health care industry. However the main driver of our inflated health care cost will remain - the health providers will still be Capitalists. I can't remember his name, but an Irish rabble rouser one said something like this - I don't mind giving Capitalists one of my hands, but do they really need all of my limbs.
Well here is a little anecdote to show how hospitals et. al. are kept in line. A group of doctors in Alberta wanted an MRI machine and so they asked SP for one. The response was "We are not in the business of providing medical devices we are an insurer. If you believe you can find enough usage to pay for an MRI machine then buy one."

Of course Alberta is the home of the Reform party (Really a bunch of wannabee Republicans) so it was not surprising that they mistook SP for Soci@list medicine.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:06 PM
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No just failing eyesight but it does sound good.
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I agree with the revolution part. Richard Wolff like Thomas Paine understood the Monarchy, understands capitalism.
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