Congratulations America!

[hillbilly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I disagree at least to some degree. They tried. The Republicans did everything in their power to make them fail. Not because it was in the best interest of America or the American people, but so they could get elected. Reasonable solutions were dead before the debate even started. This "Socialist" bull shit made it an impossible battle.

I want to line up every Republican who said "we all agree we have to do something" and ask them what they intend to do now. But I already know the answer- nothing.

I hear ya. But one needs to battle bullshit with a better argument and and not obfuscation and unseemly political maneuvering. The Dem's had a lot of goodwill from the public right after the election and the largest majority they could have hoped for. They blew it, plain and simple.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I hear ya. But one needs to battle bullshit with a better argument and and not obfuscation and unseemly political maneuvering. The Dem's had a lot of goodwill from the public right after the election and the largest majority they could have hoped for. They blew it, plain and simple.

I'll agree that the Republicans play the game better than the Democrats. Nothing deters them. Doesn't matter how damaging it is to the country or her people, they stay the course. The soulless bastards will always win because the Democrats keep trying to make things better. They're dumb enough to care about people and that will be their downfall.

It's not the end of the world. We're only one country, soon to be added to the ash-heap of history. Progress will continue to progress with our without America. We'll fall further and further behind every year until we're entirely irrelevant. Ah, but our taxes will be low.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

It's not the end of the world. We're only one country, soon to be added to the ash-heap of history. Progress will continue to progress with our without America. We'll fall further and further behind every year until we're entirely irrelevant. Ah, but our taxes will be low.

I wonder whether my daughter would like a permanent house guest in Italy.

Actually, I'm not sure how much this election will change. Perhaps the health care bill won't pass but perhaps, through reconciliation, it will. Beyond that, I don't see it really mattering.

So, we have 59 seats now to the Republican's 41. We now officially have less than a veto-proof majority but in the practical sense we never really did have it. What with Lieberman and the Blue Dogs we had a secure 60 vote majority on precisely nothing.

Let's forget about that pipe dream and get down to business. We need to get a new Leader in the Senate NOW and we need to give Lieberman the old heave ho right after that.

Having 58 seats is plenty if the Democrats learn how to play hardball. The last time the Republicans had 60 seats was 1923. We all know how impotent they've been since then.

John

[Twodogs]

Wasn't there something about elections having consequences? It appears that America is ready for more change (or would it be less)? Brown was running against Obama, Reid, and Palosi, not Marsha (or was it Margaret). I personally think she had a slight chance right up to the time Obama "popped in" with the kiss of death. I can't wait to see what's next in the democrat's bag of suicidal shenanigans.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Wasn't there something about elections having consequences? It appears that America is ready for more change (or would it be less)? Brown was running against Obama, Reid, and Palosi, not Marsha (or was it Margaret). I personally think she had a slight chance right up to the time Obama "popped in" with the kiss of death. I can't wait to see what's next in the democrat's bag of suicidal shenanigans.

Yeah- those bastards. Tried to make health care available to everyone.

[davidb]

We can do something. The government can not "give us anything" It's up to you and I. Health care is expensive and always has been. Turning it over to that bunch of thieves is nuts.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by davidb

We can do something. The government can not "give us anything" It's up to you and I. Health care is expensive and always has been. Turning it over to that bunch of thieves is nuts.

Insurance has been in the hands of con-men for decades. How do you win the lottery - you die. You pay for auto insurance for twenty years without a claim. You have to pay for a scratch to another person's car, and you pay the cost ten times over in increased premiums. Medical choices are taken from the care providers and turned over to the bean counters. Shoot, no reason for change that I can see.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by davidb

We can do something. The government can not "give us anything" It's up to you and I. Health care is expensive and always has been. Turning it over to that bunch of thieves is nuts.

More expensive here than anywhere else. But we get less for our money. Again, America leading the way! To profit over someone's illness.

[davidb]

If you can show me a "change" that is better, I'm in. But I have seen nothing that makes me think this change will help any tax payer. You will pay for it either way. At least now I have the choice to buy it or not.