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Old 11-02-2017, 01:26 PM
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Part of the collusion meme is that Hillary had such an insurmountable lead in per-election polling, and that there MUST have been some collusion from the Trump to cause that lead to evaporate so much in favor of Trump. But if the polling was so screwed up - artificially inflating Hillary's lead - how much impact to Russian interference really have? The Trump team never really invested themselves in the polling anyway, so why would they have been motivated to "collude"?
You'll sure weave a complex web of bullshit in order not to accept the fact that the Russians hacked Dem computers. Also, you seem to believe that the Trump and Hillary sleaziness are a zero-sum game (i.e., the more sleazy Hillary was, the less sleazy Trump was). I hate to tell you, but it doesn't work that way.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:26 PM
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You'll sure weave a complex web of bullshit in order not to accept the fact that the Russians hacked Dem computers. Also, you seem to believe that the Trump and Hillary sleaziness are a zero-sum game (i.e., the more sleazy Hillary was, the less sleazy Trump was). I hate to tell you, but it doesn't work that way.
You weave a complex web of bullshit to put words in other people's mouths.

Never said, implied or even considered the possibility of a "zero sum game". That was the Obama plan for economic growth.

Never said the Russians didn't hack the Dem's computers. I've questioned the "collusion".

But then, you already know this. I understand why you'd rather not talk about the Donna B article, and try to change the topic like you usually do.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:37 PM
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I understand why you'd rather not talk about the Donna B article, and try to change the topic like you usually do.
There wasn't a whiff of news in the Donna B article, as unsavory at it is. BTW, I like Donna B (a wonderful New Orleans gal with a lot of class and savvy) and dislike Hillary nearly as much as you, but in this instance Donna didn't reveal anything we didn't already know (thanks to Russia/Wikipedia/Trump). I bet the RNC wishes it would have been able to thwart Trump's takeover of the GOP, a party that he is leading off the cliff as lemmings like you follow and I watch in total amusement.
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:12 AM
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There wasn't a whiff of news in the Donna B article, as unsavory at it is. BTW, I like Donna B (a wonderful New Orleans gal with a lot of class and savvy) and dislike Hillary nearly as much as you, but in this instance Donna didn't reveal anything we didn't already know (thanks to Russia/Wikipedia/Trump). I bet the RNC wishes it would have been able to thwart Trump's takeover of the GOP, a party that he is leading off the cliff as lemmings like you follow and I watch in total amusement.
Really? Wow, you're way ahead of other folks apparently. Like the folks at Newsweek, for example. Greg Price is writing about Brazile's article in Politico like some of it is "new news", particularly the part about how far back (August 2015) that the Clinton campaign had taken financial control of the DNC.

But wow, you knew that, huh? Can you point me to the prior news story or leaked email that gave you that particular insight about the August 2015 agreement and put you on the leading edge of this info? If you hated Clinton so much, why didn't you give Bernie's folks an early heads up about how badly he was getting screwed?

And did Donna B have "class and savvy" when she was caught passing debate questions to the Clinton campaign?
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:29 AM
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Really? Wow, you're way ahead of other folks apparently. Like the folks at Newsweek, for example. Greg Price is writing about Brazile's article in Politico like some of it is "new news", particularly the part about how far back (August 2015) that the Clinton campaign had taken financial control of the DNC.

But wow, you knew that, huh? Can you point me to the prior news story or leaked email that gave you that particular insight about the August 2015 agreement and put you on the leading edge of this info? If you hated Clinton so much, why didn't you give Bernie's folks an early heads up about how badly he was getting screwed?

And did Donna B have "class and savvy" when she was caught passing debate questions to the Clinton campaign?
Back when the Democratic primary debates were scheduled for minimum audiences (on Saturday nights when competing college football was on), it was clear to anyone paying attention that Hillary and Wasserman-Schultz were in cahoots. There was constant criticism at the time that the DNC was coronating HRC. So, Brazile's revelations aren't really news to me. They just confirm what I (and many others) believed to be true already. Were you really surprised by these revelations?

As for her feeding debate stuff to Clinton, that was indeed unsavory, though not any more so that the Murdoch empire's unconditional fealty to your Dear Leader's and his profound idiocy, dishonesty and incompetence.

In short, there's little real news here (to informed people, anyway) and it does nothing to reduce your Dear Leader's Russia troubles.
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:34 AM
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Poor Whell. His world is collapsing around him with all the legal issues his Dear Leader has gotten himself into. His one and only response echos his Dear Leader’s: Hillary!
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:40 PM
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Back when the Democratic primary debates were scheduled for minimum audiences (on Saturday nights when competing college football was on), it was clear to anyone paying attention that Hillary and Wasserman-Schultz were in cahoots. There was constant criticism at the time that the DNC was coronating HRC. So, Brazile's revelations aren't really news to me. They just confirm what I (and many others) believed to be true already. Were you really surprised by these revelations?

As for her feeding debate stuff to Clinton, that was indeed unsavory, though not any more so that the Murdoch empire's unconditional fealty to your Dear Leader's and his profound idiocy, dishonesty and incompetence.

In short, there's little real news here (to informed people, anyway) and it does nothing to reduce your Dear Leader's Russia troubles.
Surprised that Hillary and Debbie were in "cahoots"? No. Surprised that the DNC signed an agreement with the Clinton campaign that forfeited control of party finances and operations as far back as August 2015? Yeah, that was surprising. Whether you were surprised or not, its apparent that it surprised Brazile as well. Whether you were surprised or not, it sounds like it at the very least was something that confirmed Bernie's suspicions, but was nothing that he had first - hand knowledge of.

What I really think is that you're full of shit when you suggest that there was nothing new in Brazile's article in Politico.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:41 PM
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Poor Whell. His world is collapsing around him with all the legal issues his Dear Leader has gotten himself into. His one and only response echos his Dear Leader’s: Hillary!
My world is just fine, but thanks for the faux concern.
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Surprised that Hillary and Debbie were in "cahoots"? No. Surprised that the DNC signed an agreement with the Clinton campaign that forfeited control of party finances and operations as far back as August 2015? Yeah, that was surprising. Whether you were surprised or not, its apparent that it surprised Brazile as well. Whether you were surprised or not, it sounds like it at the very least was something that confirmed Bernie's suspicions, but was nothing that he had first - hand knowledge of.

What I really think is that you're full of shit when you suggest that there was nothing new in Brazile's article in Politico.
No! No! No! Please Sir, do not lose your composure.

I have always admired you for being nimble, quick on your toes.

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^^ Hillary is not the one destroying this country but Trump is.
If you are really really serious, ask me how.
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