Presidential Debate(s)

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Well boys, are we all finally convinced? When Biden wins, we can enjoy civil unrest thanks to Trump and his deplorables.

I'm expecting it whether trump wins or loses, but not from Trump supporters.

Remember, the Biden supporters are the ones that roll over and burn cars when their pro basketball team loses the playoffs - or wins.

However, I think there will be a lot of Kyles out there. Hopefully nobody shoots at them.

I'll be at home enjoying a nice single malt. Whether I have to get involved all depends on where it goes. I strongly believe it will be a tempest in a teapot, but we'll see.

[Chicks]

Experts say Trump tax report shows aggressive tax avoidance, unusually persistent losses

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...gressive-tax-/

Only a fool would believe anything a propagandist like Hugh Hewitt says without fact checking. The facts show he and Donny are, as usual, lying.

[Chicks]

Tuesday’s Debate Made Clear the Gravest Threat to the Election: The Orange Shitstain Himself
President* Trump’s unwillingness to say he would abide by the result and his disinformation campaign about election fraud went beyond anything President Vladimir V. Putin could have imagined.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/u...-election.html

President* Trump’s angry insistence in the last minutes of Tuesday’s debate that there was no way the presidential election could be conducted without fraud amounted to an extraordinary declaration by a sitting American president that he would try to throw any outcome into the courts, Congress or the streets if he was not re-elected.

His comments came after four years of debate about the possibility of foreign interference in the 2020 election and how to counter such disruptions. But they were a stark reminder that the most direct threat to the electoral process now comes from the president* of the United States himself.

Mr. Trump’s unwillingness to say he would abide by the result, and his disinformation campaign about the integrity of the American electoral system, went beyond anything President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia could have imagined. All Mr. Putin has to do now is amplify the president’s message, which he has already begun to do.

Everything Mr. Trump said in his face-off with Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic presidential nominee, he had already delivered in recent weeks, in tweets and at rallies with his faithful. But he had never before put it all together in front of such a large audience as he did on Tuesday night.

[Chicks]

Focus Group - The Lincoln Project

Donald Trump lost the debate.

https://youtu.be/LM3dMJNOFiA

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Focus Group - The Lincoln Project

Donald Trump lost the debate.

https://youtu.be/LM3dMJNOFiA

Opinions vary. Of course, some opinions make their case better than others.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Focus Group - The Lincoln Project

Donald Trump lost the debate.

https://youtu.be/LM3dMJNOFiA

tRump thinks he won the debate and nobody at the WH has the balls to tell him any different. The next "debate" will be in a Town Hall format. Expect to see tRump non-answering questions on a scale never before seen in history. In between the outright lies of course.

[Chicks]

Orange Shitstain has starved Americans of human compassion. Biden finally offered us some
Those able to screen out the president’s noise during the debate heard real plans for Covid, the economy and the environment

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...l-debate-trump

No one could have possibly envied Joe Biden, subjected to an internationally televised barrage of mocking insinuations, insults and patently obvious lies. One imagines that Biden’s team worked to prepare him for precisely that. But only in the movies does the karate student always succeed in beating up the bully or the mugger. Only Hillary Clinton and Trump’s out-of-favor employees could have told Biden what it was like to be in a public forum, however socially distanced, and withstand that level of personal assault.

How disappointed Biden’s campaign must be to find out, in the press, that hardly anyone seems to have heard what Joe Biden actually said. He’s been getting points for looking into the camera, for talking directly to the American people, unlike his opponent’s transparent fuming, trapped inside himself and waiting for a chance to erupt. It’s depressing enough that we, the people, are supposed to feel grateful that a presidential candidate is directly looking at, talking to, us. We’re so thankful to be seen that we don’t need to listen.

When we could hear him, we realized that Biden had given serious thought to how to handle the pandemic, restart the economy, and phase out our dependence on fossil fuels. He had ideas, he had plans. Meanwhile I kept thinking how low the bar has been set if I’m thankful that a US presidential candidate acknowledges the reality of climate change and the importance of wearing masks.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Orange Shitstain has starved Americans of human compassion. Biden finally offered us some
Those able to screen out the president’s noise during the debate heard real plans for Covid, the economy and the environment

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...l-debate-trump

Opinions vary. Of course, some opinions make their case better than others.

Do you really want to get into a spam war with articles that support one or the other? There are a lot of them. What's funny, though, is when the NYT had to fact check Biden.
Hell Freezes Over: NYT Fact-Checks ‘False’ Biden Claims on Econ, Trade

And I must repeat what I said somewhere else here: Trump sees this debate as act 1 in a three act play. The finale will be epic, I suspect. We're all just getting back story in the first act.

[RickeyM]

Those able to screen out the president’s noise during the debate heard real plans for Covid, the economy and the environment

I've been able to screen out tRump's noise for years now.

[Chicks]

Fire Orange Shitstain

https://www.thenation.com/article/po...0-endorsement/

This is the most important election in our lifetimes—and one of the most consequential in The Nation’s 155-year history. Accepting his party’s nomination in 2016, Donald Trump promised to “lead our country back to safety, prosperity, and peace…to add millions of new jobs and trillions in new wealth.” At his inauguration, he returned to that theme, vowing to rebuild “our country, with American hands and American labor.” All lies. He also claimed to be worth billions–and to have paid “millions” in taxes. That turned out to be a lie, too.

Instead of leading us toward prosperity, Trump pushed through a tax bill that gave billions of dollars to his rich supporters (and cabinet members) and cut taxes on corporations by a whopping 40 percent while doling out crumbs to working families. Instead of pursuing peace, Trump scuttled the Iran nuclear deal, reneged on the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (negotiated by Ronald Reagan), and is withdrawing the country from the Open Skies agreement. Not to mention his abdication of the Paris climate accord—the predictable consequence of an administration with a contempt for science, an aversion to truth, and a blind faith in the infallible wisdom of markets and corporate elites. Fiddling on Twitter while the West Coast burns, Trump has nothing to offer but four more years of incompetence and indifference. The man who pledged to end “American carnage” has instead revealed himself as a cheerleader for white supremacy, religious bigotry, and nationalist hatred.

And this is without even reckoning with the way the coronavirus pitilessly exposed his terrifying inadequacy as a leader, his literally fatal inability to take advice or rise to an occasion. As the pandemic continues to spread, with our country leading the world in death and suffering, Americans should ask ourselves, “Do I feel safer than I did four years ago?”