Ukraine Heats Up

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Samm

Where do you get this stuff Dave?
He didn't say a thing about his "schedule" He said "he would have more flexibility" To which the President responded he would pass that on to Putin.
Why would Putin give a rats ass about Obama's schedule?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA_0YS7tK04

Maybe he meant flexibility in his schedule?

I wondered if I had that quote right, but, it was after work and I was tired and I didn't double check. So sue me..

Nonetheless, in bringing it up, I exposed that you are one of the asshats that got all spun up about it. It was, like you, a lot of NOTHING.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Samm

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mc...1US685&p=Obama open mic with Russian you tube

He was definitely busted there.

Busted doing what?

Dave

[HarmanKardon]

Merkel scolded Putin via phonecall for his intervention in a very harsh manner and demanded a "fact finding mission".

Isn't that cute? Angie. Oh Angie.

[HarmanKardon]

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[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Merkel is willing to look East ???

To do business with Russia. To be a strong source of development.

Plus she does not trust the US with its regime change mantra.
Putin should realize Russia needs Germany. He should just let the
Ukraine stew.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Plus she does not trust the US with its regime change mantra.

Does anybody, anymore?

Dave

[HarmanKardon]

Angie is not Vlad's harlot. I confess that she is a homophobe asshole but anyway her political orientation is a Western one. Germany is a modern progressive democratic nation with a zero on the top of it's government.

She is chancellor just because German women are allowed to vote which is a big big mistake. She has been elected again because she had no qualified challenger. She is not the spokeswoman of the intellectual part of the German nation which is totally pro West, but she is a democrat as well.

Russia will overtake Crimea and the world will get accustomed to it. It is that simple.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Russia will overtake Crimea and the world will get accustomed to it. It is that simple.

Yep.

Putin may have heard that saying "Never waste a good crisis."

[Samm]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm confident that Putin wouldn't give a shit if no one from Western Europe or the US showed up.

Maybe they are scared to show up after the B slapp'in he gave them at last years G8.
"“You want President Bashshar al-Asad to step down? Look at the leaders you’ve made in the Middle East in the course of what you have dubbed the “Arab Spring.” Now the peoples of the region are rejecting those leaders. It will never accept attempts to impose things upon it by force. As to Receb Tayyib Erdoğan [in Turkey], the street is moving against him and his star is beginning to wane. In Tunisia the Muslim Brotherhood-Salafi rule that you formed there is no longer stable and the fate of Tunisia won’t be very far from the army seizing power, because Europe will never accept chaos on its borders and Tunisia is an entry way to Europe.” (Putin said this before the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of Tunisia resigned to declare his candidacy for president of the republic. Note by as-Safir.)

Putin went on: “You have spread anarchy in Libya after Mu‘ammar al-Qadhdhafi. Nobody can put together an authority capable of working to rebuild the state there. Yemen after the departure of ‘Ali ‘Abdallah Salih lacks stability in government and there is no peace in the streets. Military and security unrest continues to prevail in all the regions of the country. As to the Persian Gulf, the whole area from Bahrain to the rest of the states there is sitting atop a volcano,” Putin said.

The diplomatic source reported the Russian President as saying: “You want Russia to abandon Asad and his regime and go along with an Opposition whose leaders don’t know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members – who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations – don’t know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh. You use double standards and approach the crisis in Syria using summer and winter styles under one roof. You lie to your own peoples so as to further your interests. This is none of our business. But it is impermissible for you to lie to us and to the countries and peoples of the world, because the international stage is no longer yours alone. Your ability to monopolize it the way you did two decades ago is now gone for good.”

Putin continued: “In Syria all of you are standing on the side of the forces that for the last 10 years you have claimed to be fighting against under the rubric of ‘fighting terror.’ Now today you are with them, helping them to take power across the region. You declare that you’re going to arm them and work to facilitate sending their fighters to Syria to bring it down, weaken it, and break it up.” Putin asked, “In God’s name what kind of democracy are you talking about? You want a democratic regime in Syria to take the place of the Asad regime, but are Turkey and the countries you’re allied with in the region blessed with democracy?”
Putin addressed US President Obama specifically, saying: “Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qa‘idah Organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office.”

Putin turned to the President of France [François Hollande] to ask, “How can you send your army to Mali to fight fundamentalist terrorists on the one hand, while on the other you are making an alliance with them and supporting them in Syria, and you want to send them heavy weapons to fight the regime there?”
Unfortunately Putin bent the other 7 over like a Russian gymnast.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013...roup-of-eight/

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Angie is not Vlad's harlot. I confess that she is a homophobe asshole but anyway her political orientation is a Western one. Germany is a modern progressive democratic nation with a zero on the top of it's government.

She is chancellor just because German women are allowed to vote which is a big big mistake. She has been elected again because she had no qualified challenger. She is not the spokeswoman of the intellectual part of the German nation which is totally pro West, but she is a democrat as well.

Russia will overtake Crimea and the world will get accustomed to it. It is that simple.

Miss Merkel knows Germany is a powerful engine close to Russia and the
Russians do not like Chinese goods.

They have a passion for German goods, especially cars.