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Old 01-02-2018, 07:11 PM
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If you watch CNN or MSNBC, or any of the network news the policy is hate Trump.
There's indeed a lot to hate about Trump.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:23 PM
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There's indeed a lot to hate about Trump.
Perhaps. But, it is not policy.

Seriously. I don't know any metric which would show the lot of the working man improving under Obama.

The GDP is already up under Trump.

If the economy escalates it is going to be hard for the Democrats hate Trump message to gain much traction.

The left's talking heads are already counting their seats in the House and Senate. Sort of like they were counting Hillary's seat in the White House.

You are going to have to come up with something better and somebody better.

If the economy improves you are stuck with Republicans.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:52 AM
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Bannon: 2016 Trump Tower meeting was 'treasonous'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-michael-wolff
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:16 AM
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"A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”

Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.

Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.

We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.

The intelligence committees have known for months that credible allegations of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. Yet lawmakers in the thrall of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitting victims of Kremlin disinformation.

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.
We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.
Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust. We first learned of that meeting from news reports last year — and the committees know it. They also know that these Russians were unaware of the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s work for us and were not sources for his reports." continued at the NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/o...r=1#whats-next

For starters, Devin Nunes and Trey Gowdy need to be ridden out of DC on a rail.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:25 AM
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From the link in Post #1283:
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Bannon has criticised Trump’s decision to fire Comey. In Wolff’s book, obtained by the Guardian ahead of publication from a bookseller in New England, he suggests White House hopes for a quick end to the Mueller investigation are gravely misplaced.

“You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to fucking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.”

Last month it was reported that federal prosecutors had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, the German financial institution that has lent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Kushner property empire. Bannon continues: “It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner shit. The Kushner shit is greasy. They’re going to go right through that. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me.”

Scorning apparent White House insouciance, Bannon reaches for a hurricane metaphor: “They’re sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five.”
The above dovetails well with the Fusion GPS article.

Nunes and Gowdy can stall but when it comes to money laundering, it will not stop. There could and will be a 'Deep Throat' within the Justice Department if all else fails.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:53 PM
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From press secretary Sarah Sanders:

Statement from the President of the United States

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.
Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn’t as easy as I make it look. Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country. Yet Steve had everything to do with the loss of a Senate seat in Alabama held for more than thirty years by Republicans. Steve doesn’t represent my base—he’s only in it for himself.
Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well. Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue, whom he helped write phony books.
We have many great Republican members of Congress and candidates who are very supportive of the Make America Great Again agenda. Like me, they love the United States of America and are helping to finally take our country back and build it up, rather than simply seeking to burn it all down."

Oh my.
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:13 PM
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Hey Bob.... pass me the popcorn! This is going to be fun to watch the two of them go after each other.
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:23 PM
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Hey Bob.... pass me the popcorn! This is going to be fun to watch the two of them go after each other.

If this keeps up I'm going to need a new belt. (grin)
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:32 PM
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And Manafort just filed a lawsuit against Mueller and the Justice Dapartment that the Mueller investigation exceeds their authority. This is as good as it gets, but wait, this is just the beginning.
Mike Flynn is having a quiet laugh to himself.
With all this infighting, Mueller is probably dancing.
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:20 PM
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I bet Mueller's suit sets a new record--as soon as it gets to a judge it will become the most-speedily-dismissed lawsuit in history.
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