Abortion; Is this true?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

If abortion is equal to the death penalty, then there is a dissonance with the left's support of abortion as well.

Actually, if the Left = Democrats, I don't think anti-death penalty is part of their platform (as anti-abortion is for the GOP). I would venture to say that most Democratic politicians are in favor of the death penalty (at least in their public utterances). In all but the bluest of blue states, a politician cannot even hint about being against the death penalty if he wants to be elected.

As for the left "supporting abortion," I think pro-choice isn't, by definition, pro-abortion. Personally, I'm pretty much anti-abortion (in terms of my personal beliefs), but not strongly so. However, I don't feel a need or desire to impose this belief on anybody else. It's simply none of my business.

[piece-itpete]

I'm perfectly OK with threatening the life of the mother. A Doctors' call, not a judges, not mine.

As a legal decision, feelings on abortion aside, Roe vs Wade is awful.

And again with the atom blaster If people yelling illegal think the law being wrong is ironic, it stands to reason people yelling the law is right thinking illegals are OK is too.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Sometimes I wonder if we should allow a fetus to be aborted up to the age of 40..........
Naw, cuz then my mother would have killed me about 20 years ago.

Dave

[merrylander]

Interesting letter in WaPo this morning. Reader was wondering how GOPers can say the PPACA is not covered by the commerce clause and government cannot lawfully force people to buy insurance. Yet these same GOPers feel that a woman's uterus is covered by the commerce clause so they can regulate it.

[piece-itpete]

The feds can kiss my patooie

It belongs 'to the people, or to the respective States'.

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The feds can kiss my patooie

It belongs 'to the people, or to the respective States'.

Pete

What does - a woman's uterus?

[piece-itpete]

Rob, the issue aside, the court case in question shows everything that's wrong with the SC. It's in 'The Brethren' by Woodward.

Unfortunately for the issue, the Constitution does not mention a womans' uterus or medical procedures in general.

Pete

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by finnbow

+1, emphatically. The whole sanctity of life argument with respect to abortion made by the religious right falls apart when it comes to the death penalty, supporting a trumped up invasion of Iraq that killed over 100,000 innocent Iraqis, or even denying health coverage to 30 million fellow citizens.

Sometimes I think self-righteousness about abortion is nothing but an a cynical attempt to gain the moral high ground at someone else's expense.

The problem with the position taken by the religious right is that it has an extremely narrow view of what "morality" means. Morality seems to be confined to making an appropriate choice in responding to one's sexuality. To them the only appropriate choices are chastity or sexual relations within the context of a properly sanctioned marriage between a man and a woman. Birth control, gay marriage, abortion, education about condoms, masturbation - anything that makes it easier to engage in sexual conduct - or at least to avoid the consequences thereof - must be immoral because it doesn't promote the accepted form of sexual conduct. The other moral issues don't have the same appeal because they're not as sexy.

Regards,

D-Ray

[doucanoe]

Not speaking of this place, but I really hope that we can keep this whole abortion matter out of the conversation long enough for us to address our more pressing economic state. I'm not sure that our chuckleheads on the right or left will allow this to happen though.

You guys can talk abortion all day long as for as I'm concerned.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

Not speaking of this place, but I really hope that we can keep this whole abortion matter out of the conversation long enough for us to address our more pressing economic state. I'm not sure that our chuckleheads on the right or left will allow this to happen though.

You guys can talk abortion all day long as for as I'm concerned.

I agree that the horse has been beaten enough that it is dogfood by now. There are more important issues for our legislators to consider - like gay marriage.

It take discipline and a longer attention span to concentrate on the budget and take thoughtful steps toward eliminating the deficit. It looks like the administration is going to be working overtime on foreign policy as well.

Regards,

D-Ray