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01-02-2015, 10:44 AM
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Mobbing
A few years ago there was a guy in the neighborhood who was making a little extra money by letting homeless people camp in his yard, selling drugs and raising ringneck doves for game ranches. When he inevitably got busted and then evicted he released his doves into the neighborhood.
The local hawks must have thought they'd died and gone to heaven and set about trying to chow down on the naive newly liberated doves. Well, the doves had other ideas. They turned out not to be such easy pickings and, any time a hawk cruised their nest sited, the doves would mob them furiously and raucously and drive them off. They were frequently joined by the mocking birds and jays in the neighborhood.
We still have plenty of ringnecks here, not so many hawks.
John
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01-02-2015, 11:01 AM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by Boreas
A few years ago there was a guy in the neighborhood who was making a little extra money by letting homeless people camp in his yard, selling drugs and raising ringneck doves for game ranches.
John
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BTW read recently that in some cities, to dissuade homeless gatherings, it is illegal to exchange food in the public.
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01-02-2015, 11:12 AM
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More partisan nonsense.
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...as if your post wasn't.
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01-02-2015, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
BTW read recently that in some cities, to dissuade homeless gatherings, it is illegal to exchange food in the public.
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Yes.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...meless-n241971
I find this to be beyond disgusting. As far as I'm concerned, the country I was born in is gone. We are a petty, selfish, uncaring, violent bunch of "individuals" with no concern fro anyone else. That a city can behave as Ft. Lauderdale and other cities have behaved is merely a symptom of the coarseness and hatred that has infected all of us.
John
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01-02-2015, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
The ACA is helping millions of people who formerly fell through the cracks in our pay to play health care system and the economy is growing at a near record rate.
So, what was that you were saying?
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Got numbers on that to back up your claim, or are you just blowing smoke? Specifically, numbers of net new enrollees who have coverage now that didn't have coverage before ACA? And if you do, be sure to subtract from any figures you might source net new Medicaid enrollees that were previously covered under employer group health plans.
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01-02-2015, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Yes.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...meless-n241971
I find this to be beyond disgusting. As far as I'm concerned, the country I was born in is gone. We are a petty, selfish, uncaring, violent bunch of "individuals" with no concern fro anyone else. That a city can behave as Ft. Lauderdale and other cities have behaved is merely a symptom of the coarseness and hatred that has infected all of us.
John
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You're right. It's no way for the Dems to treat the homeless. They did it during the Denver DNC convention in 2008 too.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/newsandview..._during_1.html
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01-02-2015, 12:04 PM
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Two totally different scenarios with totally different effects relative to the care of the homeless and you know it.
And, of course, there's this.
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/st....html?page=all
Everything's partisan with you, Mike. For what it's worth, I don't know which parties control which cities who have made it essentially illegal to feed the homeless and I don't care. It's wrong and frankly evil no matter who does it.
John
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01-02-2015, 12:11 PM
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If you don't feed them they'll go away.
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01-02-2015, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Got numbers on that to back up your claim, or are you just blowing smoke? Specifically, numbers of net new enrollees who have coverage now that didn't have coverage before ACA? And if you do, be sure to subtract from any figures you might source net new Medicaid enrollees that were previously covered under employer group health plans.
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5.4 million. You could look it up.
The picture would be even brighter if so many states hadn't decided to play politics at the expense of their citizens by refusing Medicare expansion.
John
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01-02-2015, 12:16 PM
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Ready
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Originally Posted by nailer
If you don't feed them they'll go away.
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The real concern, I think, is that if you do feed them more will come.
The homeless need to be helped by pros. If you want to help them, do it by helping make sure that happens.
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