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03-13-2017, 08:37 PM
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Yes, of course, however the political system wasn't always so willing to exploit the ignorance as they are now, and the educated minority? They have never been so complicit as to allow it to happen.
Where are the educated elite that are supposed to be calling out the corruption? Oh yea...they're counting their investment gains..... perhaps screwing over the poor is a little too profitable for them.
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That's the name of Ivanka's new perfume.
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03-13-2017, 08:31 PM
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They should allow the same subsidies to single people or married people without children as they do to those with children. In other words make it affordable by making everyone eligible for cheaper health care. Put another tax on the very wealthy to pay for that. That would get younger, healthier people into the markets so the exchanges can do better.
Then, most importantly, officially change the name from the ACA to Trumpcare.
Don't touch anything else about the original bill
I just solved the whole mess.
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03-14-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
They should allow the same subsidies to single people or married people without children as they do to those with children. In other words make it affordable by making everyone eligible for cheaper health care. Put another tax on the very wealthy to pay for that. That would get younger, healthier people into the markets so the exchanges can do better.
Then, most importantly, officially change the name from the ACA to Trumpcare.
Don't touch anything else about the original bill
I just solved the whole mess.
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A Fantasyland solution.
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03-14-2017, 12:10 PM
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A Fantasyland solution.
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Any sort of intelligent solution here is a fantasy.
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03-14-2017, 12:28 PM
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After criticizing the CBO estimate that 24 million people will lose their insurance, it has been revealed that the White House's own estimate showed 26 million losing their insurance.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-house-236019
Moreover, it appears that Trump's signature voters, low-income old folks, are going to be screwed the worst:
According to the CBO, 64-year olds making $26,500 per year would see their premiums increase by an estimated 750 percent by 2026. While they are on track to pay $1,700 under the current law, the CBO projects the American Health Care Act would force them to pay $14,600.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-cbo-report/
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03-14-2017, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
After criticizing the CBO estimate that 24 million people will lose their insurance, it has been revealed that the White House's own estimate showed 26 million losing their insurance.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-house-236019
Moreover, it appears that Trump's signature voters, low-income old folks, are going to be screwed the worst:
According to the CBO, 64-year olds making $26,500 per year would see their premiums increase by an estimated 750 percent by 2026. While they are on track to pay $1,700 under the current law, the CBO projects the American Health Care Act would force them to pay $14,600.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-cbo-report/
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Health care is a privilege, not a right. Let those without die and decrease the surplus population.
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03-14-2017, 12:55 PM
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Ryan's answer is to tout only the positives which basically is $300 Billion savings over a decade, which is what, $30B per year? Isn't that chump change on a $4 Trillion budget?
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03-15-2017, 09:54 AM
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Aw the right wing is saving Obamacare so they will have something to rally the troops with:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000009
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000009
Look for Bannon to propose Medicare For WASPs any day now to secure the Trump legacy.
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03-15-2017, 10:24 AM
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The right wing doesn't want any insurance. Hell, they don't even want Medicaid/Medicare.
This explains why they spent half a billion dollars to repeal ACA, and have nothing to replace it. Pond scum.
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