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Old 12-10-2014, 01:43 PM
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Threats are probably SOP but who the heck would stick their fingers up a rectum??

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Old 12-10-2014, 01:48 PM
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Pandering to the conservative loyalty gene. It's disloyal to make us look bad, the loyalty instinct says. But coming clean is actually good for repairing our reputation, for having moral credibility in the future.

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Old 12-10-2014, 02:05 PM
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Surprised Andrea is not a blond though she appears to be well equipped for the job.

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Old 12-10-2014, 04:08 PM
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The thinking of the naysayers on the USA owning up to a wrong, is it is better to torture kill abuse in general the same tactics we hung Axis members in WWII for doing? But to then tell the world we did it is wrong? I say if we had not done it in the first place then we would not have to cover it up and lie about it or rationalize it use either.

Just how we react when it happens to our citizens should be enough to prove this point.


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Old 12-11-2014, 09:22 AM
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Keep in mind too this is a partisan piece, though they do have good reason for being pissed at the CIA.

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Old 12-11-2014, 04:09 PM
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Keep in mind too this is a partisan piece, though they do have good reason for being pissed at the CIA.

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CIA wasn't off the reservation but following orders. From the top.



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Old 12-11-2014, 04:18 PM
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CIA wasn't off the reservation but following orders. From the top.



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Speaking of the top, here's what he has to say about it.

http://news.yahoo.com/former-vice-pr...opstories.html

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Former Vice President Dick Cheney says a declassified Senate report on the controversial post-9/11 CIA interrogation program is "full of crap."
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"I think it is a terrible report, deeply flawed," Cheney said on Fox News, his first televised interview since the report's release. "It's a classic example of where politicians get together and throw professionals under the bus
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Old 12-11-2014, 04:30 PM
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Obama could really freak out conservatives by giving a Presidential pardon to Dubya, Cheney, Michael Hayden, et al.
That would be a stroke of genius, actually. He could have done it at the pardoning of "Cheese", the Turkey.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:02 PM
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That would be a stroke of genius, actually. He could have done it at the pardoning of "Cheese", the Turkey.
Except for the fact they would refuse it. They still feel the were doing nothing wrong.



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Old 12-12-2014, 10:16 AM
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It's simple. We were either the good guys or we weren't. We're either the good guys now, or we're not.

The party line is that it's over and if it happens now, it's because of an over-zealous individual who went out of control. Of course we never hear about any of those types getting caught out at it. Perhaps because it just never happens anymore.
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