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Old 12-20-2014, 01:35 PM
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Yes.

If there's a rational reason for the technique, the plainclothes officer should be cleared.
After FOUR cops had him already manhandled and into submission. No need for a GJ here, just an internal investigation will suffice.
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After FOUR cops had him already manhandled and into submission. No need for a GJ here, just an internal investigation will suffice.
1. If the cuffs aren't on, nobody is in submission.
2. True, no GJ required. If there's a rational reason, this is righteous.

Need go no further.
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:55 PM
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1. If the cuffs aren't on, nobody is in submission.
How do you know they weren't?

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How do you know they weren't?

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Because there wouldn't be four people holding a cuffed man?
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:16 PM
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Because there wouldn't be four people holding a cuffed man?
You can't say that. The most you can say is that there would be no legitimate reason to do so.

There was no legitimate reason for Pantaleo to place Eric Garner in a choke hole either.

But he did.

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Old 12-20-2014, 06:53 PM
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You can't say that. The most you can say is that there would be no legitimate reason to do so.

There was no legitimate reason for Pantaleo to place Eric Garner in a choke hole either.

But he did.

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1. It wasn't a designed choke hold.
2. Garner wasn't in cuffs, either.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:00 PM
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1. It wasn't a designed choke hold.
You mean it wasn't a Ralph Lauren Choke Hold? It held Garner and choked him (to death).

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2. Garner wasn't in cuffs, either.
Neither was he resisting arrest. Pantaleo just threw him into a choke hold because he didn't like the way Garner was talking. How dare he accuse the police of harassing him?

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Old 12-20-2014, 07:13 PM
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This should come as a surprise to nobody.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6360434.html

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Old 12-20-2014, 07:41 PM
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Escalation always leads to further escalation.

What we are buying is a sanctioned gang war. What we have heard from one of the former gang members tells me we have lost control, because the blue gang is treating everyone like a criminal.
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Old 12-20-2014, 07:51 PM
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This is truly sad turn of events. And as usual it is the collateral damage that is borne by the society as a whole.
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