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01-08-2011, 02:16 AM
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Wondering Aloud............................
If the economy would recover any quicker if we;
1.) Could get the Politicians, Pundits and Purveyors of "news" to stop it with all of the infighting, negativity and fear mongering.
2.) Could get the people to understand that it isn't this group or that that's going to fix everything for us. It isn't the government, the small businessman, or the big businessman. It's all of us. We all need to do our part. And it starts at home and in the workplace.
3.) Could get more people to understand the importance of supporting our own businesses and industry.
Why are these things so hard to achieve?
That's what I want to know.
Dave
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01-08-2011, 07:26 AM
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Reformed Know-Nothing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
If the economy would recover any quicker if we;
1.) Could get the Politicians, Pundits and Purveyors of "news" to stop it with all of the infighting, negativity and fear mongering.
2.) Could get the people to understand that it isn't this group or that that's going to fix everything for us. It isn't the government, the small businessman, or the big businessman. It's all of us. We all need to do our part. And it starts at home and in the workplace.
3.) Could get more people to understand the importance of supporting our own businesses and industry.
Why are these things so hard to achieve?
That's what I want to know.
Dave
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You're right IMHO (at least in part) because the economy depends a great deal on consumer confidence. However:
1) Bad news and controversy sells news
2) Political parties feel a need to distinguish between the parties. They can't say "We're both equally good on the economy" when the economy is the big issue.
3) Most people buy on the basis of price (or at least price vs. quality). Also, in a perfect world, economies of scale and the relative capabilities of different societies/cultures result in them doing things better/cheaper than others. In theory, free trade based upon this allows the consumer the best choices in quality/price. In practice, protectionism tends to rear its ugly head and mucks up the theory.
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01-08-2011, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
If the economy would recover any quicker if we;
1.) Could get the Politicians, Pundits and Purveyors of "news" to stop it with all of the infighting, negativity and fear mongering.
2.) Could get the people to understand that it isn't this group or that that's going to fix everything for us. It isn't the government, the small businessman, or the big businessman. It's all of us. We all need to do our part. And it starts at home and in the workplace.
3.) Could get more people to understand the importance of supporting our own businesses and industry.
Why are these things so hard to achieve?
That's what I want to know.
Dave
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Tunnel vision.
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01-08-2011, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
If the economy would recover any quicker if we;
1.) Could get the Politicians, Pundits and Purveyors of "news" to stop it with all of the infighting, negativity and fear mongering.
2.) Could get the people to understand that it isn't this group or that that's going to fix everything for us. It isn't the government, the small businessman, or the big businessman. It's all of us. We all need to do our part. And it starts at home and in the workplace.
3.) Could get more people to understand the importance of supporting our own businesses and industry.
Why are these things so hard to achieve?
That's what I want to know.
Dave
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"why are these things so hard to achieve?"
Because it depends on collective decision making; collective action. Working together for the benefit of all and as everyone knows, this inevitably leads to.......................communism.
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01-08-2011, 12:02 PM
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Area Man
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Sad, truly sad......................
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01-08-2011, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
If the economy would recover any quicker if we;
1.) Could get the Politicians, Pundits and Purveyors of "news" to stop it with all of the infighting, negativity and fear mongering.
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Watching the Americans from across the pond, it seems to me as though your news organizations pick and choose silly topics to enrage the public with. Whether it's DADT, NY mosque or Obama-Care, these topics are brought up for a few weeks at a time to let the citizens argue back and forth over an issue that is relatively black or white.
These are the kind of stories that rile up emotions and are used to distract the general American population. It is sad to see so many get riled up over issues, particularly something like DADT, that in the overall scheme of things aren't that big of a deal. The 24/7 news channels have done an excellent job of helping to polarize a nation into left/right viewpoints.
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01-08-2011, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDefender
Watching the Americans from across the pond, it seems to me as though your news organizations pick and choose silly topics to enrage the public with. Whether it's DADT, NY mosque or Obama-Care, these topics are brought up for a few weeks at a time to let the citizens argue back and forth over an issue that is relatively black or white.
These are the kind of stories that rile up emotions and are used to distract the general American population. It is sad to see so many get riled up over issues, particularly something like DADT, that in the overall scheme of things aren't that big of a deal. The 24/7 news channels have done an excellent job of helping to polarize a nation into left/right viewpoints.
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Your vision from across the pond is 20/20 (unfortunately). Conflict sells.
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01-08-2011, 07:33 PM
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This goes right along with voting patterns in the US as well. The people who get excited by this type of commentary will be the first ones to vote based on spoon fed emotion, whereas the educated become so apathetic and disgusted by all of the goings on, that they feel that their vote is worthless against the masses of indoctrinated on either side of the aisle. For the US to rebound, the educated, non-reactionary voter must go to the polls and cast their vote accordingly.
However, this is made even more difficult with the established dichotomy and the inability of a third party to have an political influence.
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01-08-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkDefender
This goes right along with voting patterns in the US as well. The people who get excited by this type of commentary will be the first ones to vote based on spoon fed emotion, whereas the educated become so apathetic and disgusted by all of the goings on, that they feel that their vote is worthless against the masses of indoctrinated on either side of the aisle.
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Your vision from over there is actually better than 20/20.
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01-08-2011, 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDefender
This goes right along with voting patterns in the US as well. The people who get excited by this type of commentary will be the first ones to vote based on spoon fed emotion, whereas the educated become so apathetic and disgusted by all of the goings on, that they feel that their vote is worthless against the masses of indoctrinated on either side of the aisle. For the US to rebound, the educated, non-reactionary voter must go to the polls and cast their vote accordingly.
However, this is made even more difficult with the established dichotomy and the inability of a third party to have an political influence.
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I take it you're not going to Vegas?
Chas
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