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03-07-2010, 05:21 PM
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This may be the most disturbing things I've read here. That anyone could wax nostalgic about how "wars just ain't what they used to be" is really..... um..... over the edge. If you're trying to be funny, you failed. If you're on the level you've got some serious issues.
Oh, and your "economic cycle"? Pure horseshit. World War II? Yup. Any other wars? Not so much.
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and what was it that caused the economy to come roaring back during WW II?
Government spending?
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03-07-2010, 07:20 PM
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and what was it that caused the economy to come roaring back during WW II?
Government spending?
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+1.
Reagan did it. Won the war and created all of that industry single handedly by making everyone proud to be Americans.
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03-07-2010, 07:28 PM
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and what was it that caused the economy to come roaring back during WW II?
Government spending?
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
+1.
Reagan did it. Won the war and created all of that industry single handedly by making everyone proud to be Americans.
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Actually, it's a right wing myth that war spending pulled us out of the Depression. They don't want to admit that it was the policies of the FDR Administration that did it. Government spending absolutely did, on things like the NRA and the WPA, but we were pretty damn near out of the woods by the time of Pearl Harbor.
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03-07-2010, 07:31 PM
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Actually, it's a right wing myth that war spending pulled us out of the Depression. They don't want to admit that it was the policies of the FDR Administration that did it.
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That was my point, being an economics major and all.
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03-07-2010, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Actually, it's a right wing myth that war spending pulled us out of the Depression. They don't want to admit that it was the policies of the FDR Administration that did it. Government spending absolutely did, on things like the NRA and the WPA, but we were pretty damn near out of the woods by the time of Pearl Harbor.
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That's how my Pops recalled it. He worked in the CCC during the latter stages of the depression. Said it was the best experience of his working life. Taught him a work ethic that carried him for the rest of his career. And my Brothers and I can atest to the fact that he was a slave driver...................
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03-07-2010, 08:56 PM
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Really, though. Isn't fighting a war an example of massive government spending? I always thought it was different for subsequent wars because the millitary machine was already in place for Korea, Vietnam, and the current conflict. Whereas in WW2 we started with a small millitary and had to rapidly build it up?
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03-08-2010, 07:25 AM
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It is accepted that the reason the allies won WW II was that we simply out spent the axis powers. Victory usually goes to the guy with the deepest pockets.
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03-08-2010, 02:55 PM
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It is accepted that the reason the allies won WW II was that we simply out spent the axis powers. Victory usually goes to the guy with the deepest pockets.
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Much to the delight of BIS.
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03-08-2010, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
This may be the most disturbing things I've read here. That anyone could wax nostalgic about how "wars just ain't what they used to be" is really..... um..... over the edge. If you're trying to be funny, you failed. If you're on the level you've got some serious issues.
Oh, and your "economic cycle"? Pure horseshit. World War II? Yup. Any other wars? Not so much.
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Not trying to be funny, just talking about the economy historically. If we don't talk about war, does it go away, like it never happened?
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03-09-2010, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
Actually, it's a right wing myth that war spending pulled us out of the Depression. They don't want to admit that it was the policies of the FDR Administration that did it. Government spending absolutely did, on things like the NRA and the WPA, but we were pretty damn near out of the woods by the time of Pearl Harbor.
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Support please. What I've read is that, although there was a short-lasted spike in 37, there was no 'full steam ahead' until we started supplying and eventually joined the Allies.
Pete
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