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Old 07-18-2014, 08:36 PM
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I should have added a ""
Murdering people in the name of "God" does carry a certain amount of moral significance.

Let's us cut to the chase.

Homo sapiens are the most fierce prediators on the face of the planet.

The only difference between us and the wolf is that we need the facade of "necessary" to placate our souls.

In essence, we're wolfs who are cursed this the intelligence, along with the time necessary, to engage in the process of naval gazing. Whenever we murder each other...or anything for that matter...we need moral justification.

The wolf, on the other hand, only kills what is necessary. And doesn't loose any sleep over it.

If we're so Goddamned smart, how did we wind up being so Goddamned stupid?

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Old 07-18-2014, 08:40 PM
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Murdering people in the name of "God" does carry a certain amount of moral significance.

Let's us cut to the chase.

Homo sapiens are the most fierce prediators on the face of the planet.

The only difference between us and the wolf is that we need the facade of "necessary" to placate our souls.

In essence, we're wolfs who are cursed this the intelligence, along with the time necessary, to engage in the process of naval gazing. Whenever we murder each other...or anything for that matter...we need moral justification.

The wolf, on the other hand, only kills what is necessary. And doesn't loose any sleep over it.

If we're so Goddamned smart, how did we wind up being so Goddamned stupid?

Chas
And we seem to admire leaders who provide the most compelling reasons to go off to war.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:51 PM
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If we're so Goddamned smart, how did we wind up being so Goddamned stupid?

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We're just turd throwin' monkeys with advanced weaponry Chas. Too stupid to realize we killed off all the apex predators that used to feed on us.

How the heck have you been doin' you old screw? Drowning bait, I hope.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:07 PM
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And we seem to admire leaders who provide the most compelling reasons to go off to war.
Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, Bush ...
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:10 PM
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"Gods Chosen People"????

Therein lies the crux of the problem.

Chas
Precisely.

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Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, Bush ...
How did Lincoln get in there?
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:05 PM
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How did Lincoln get in there?
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"Oh. Well, that's different. Never mind."

LOL!

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Old 07-19-2014, 08:05 AM
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Ike, I'd add, that the prejudice/hatred against Jews is such a persistent thing throughout at least Western history. Ebbs and flows. If I were them I'd be worried about it and I'm sure they are.

Pete

P.S. - stop being so racist
OK I'll stop immediately. And yes indeed...underneath all the alleged calmness observed in Haifa and Tel Aviv...they're worried, all Israelis are worried about their existence, and they're worried every day.

Prejudice against Jews (risking the Godwin's Law meme here), appears to be persistent throughout the history of left-leaning political web forums as well. And they're all pretty much the same. Twelve page circle-jerks...it's them, no it's them, no it's both...etc., etc., for another half-dozen pages until everybody tires of it and goes on to the next twelve pages of benghazi or the IRS.

Of course Israel is a little different...it's the existence of an historically and currently oppressed people and not who's favorite vote whore is good or bad.

So as far as Israel is concerned, I make my statement...and get the fuck out of it.

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Old 07-19-2014, 09:15 AM
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5 Palestinians In Gaza Highlight Disagreement On Possible Cease-Fire, Ideology Of Ham

This is pretty good article from several Palestinian viewpoints.

GAZA CITY -- On Tuesday, there was a glimmer of hope when Israel accepted the terms of an Egypt-proposed cease-fire with Hamas. But the Islamist militant group, claiming that it had never been consulted, called the cease-fire a “joke” and turned it down.

Many Palestinians here say they bear the brunt of the fighting and are hoping for a cease-fire, even if it doesn’t solve the everyday problems plaguing Gaza, like high unemployment and stark poverty. And yet others say they support the continued war with Israel, a country they deem an occupier and an enemy.

Since the surge in violence between Israel and Hamas began early last week, more than 190 Palestinians -- the majority of them civilians -- have been killed. The first Israeli died in the cross-border violence Tuesday after getting hit by shrapnel.

With Hamas calling the shots in Gaza, here’s what some Palestinian civilians say they want, and how they really feel about Israel and the militant group.

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