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Old 04-29-2016, 12:51 PM
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Trump is a popular /populist candidate in spite of lack of systemic support. Cruz has the support of most teapubs and many evagelicals, he is part of a system that despises him.

Hillz may be the candidate because of system support as the potential best prospect for election.

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Old 04-29-2016, 01:50 PM
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How did we then end up with a Trump that the GOP least wanted (and look who came in second) yet the Democratic Party would up with Hillary, their unanimous choice?
Several factors were at work.

Number one, Hillary had essentially no competition other than Sanders.

Trump had plenty, which tended to split up the establishment vote so that he was able to take an early lead by just polling in the 20's.

Second, Super delegates. The Republicans don't have them.

Imagine what might have happened if they did and the establishment favorite, Jeb Bush, started out with a 400 delegate lead over Trump, like Hillary did over Bernie. Then imagine if the media did the same thing for Jeb, that they did for Hillary. Report that 400 delegate lead every day, day in, day out in order to portray Jeb as the inevitable nominee?
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:25 PM
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Several factors were at work.

Number one, Hillary had essentially no competition other than Sanders.

Trump had plenty, which tended to split up the establishment vote so that he was able to take an early lead by just polling in the 20's.

Second, Super delegates. The Republicans don't have them.

Imagine what might have happened if they did and the establishment favorite, Jeb Bush, started out with a 400 delegate lead over Trump, like Hillary did over Bernie. Then imagine if the media did the same thing for Jeb, that they did for Hillary. Report that 400 delegate lead every day, day in, day out in order to portray Jeb as the inevitable nominee?
Yeah, they kinda do.

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At least in name, superdelegates are not involved in the Republican Party nomination process. There are delegates to the Republican National Convention who are seated automatically, but they are limited to three per state, consisting of the state chairsperson and two district-level committee members. Republican Party superdelegates are obliged to vote for their state's popular vote winner under the rules of the party branch to which they belong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
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All those uncommitted PA delegates (Rep) are in effect super delegates.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:43 PM
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Republican Party superdelegates are obliged to vote for their state's popular vote winner under the rules of the party branch to which they belong.[1]
That's a far cry from what the Democrats have.

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All those uncommitted PA delegates (Rep) are in effect super delegates.
Again, nothing like those on the Democratic side who came out for Hillary before the primaries even started.
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