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01-10-2018, 06:55 PM
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I love the term "clean coal" is there really such a thing? I say no and most of the world is using just about anything but coal, including china. it's a dying industry and Trump used the coal miners for their votes. will they still endorse the orange menace? probably!
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No such thing. And I agree with your assessment of our ignorant electorate.
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01-10-2018, 07:30 PM
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I love the term "clean coal" is there really such a thing?
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Sure, just like VW’s Clean Diesel, lol.
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01-11-2018, 08:17 PM
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He's not a liar. He just doesn't know the difference between truth and lies any more. And he loves Big Brother.
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01-11-2018, 08:37 PM
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He's not a liar. He just doesn't know the difference between truth and lies any more. And he loves Big Brother.
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Okay, okay. So he's willfully full of crap. Happy?
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01-12-2018, 06:36 AM
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Chill, friend. The contradiction was just to make the point, was not actually arguing with you.
Making the distinction between truth and lies impossible is a major goal of the propagandists, and they have succeeded 100% with whell and the legions of idiots like him. Such people become uncritical, empty vessels into which the cult dogma of leader worship can be poured.
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01-12-2018, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
Pandering, my ass. She suggested a $30 billion plan to help coal communities transition to a clean energy economy. She never backed off of her climate agenda which included active focus on the reduction of coal use in this country.
Got it?
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
No and he never will.
Whell's role here is to take an anti left/progressive/independent stance on every topic and post whatever he is able to regurgitate.
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Citation? otherwise you're a liar, Mike.
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Failure to read, or comprehend, or both. See post 16 of this thread. From the quoted article:
Hillary Clinton, to her credit, candidly revealed during the primaries just how she would use neoliberalism to turnaround West Virginia’s economy.
"I’m the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right? .... Now we’ve got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don’t want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on. ... So I am passionate about this, which is why I have put forward specific plans about how we incentivize more jobs, more investment in poor communities, and put people to work."
Her passion for “incentivizing” private investment with government tax breaks and cash is at the core of Democratic neoliberalism. Put simply the idea is to bribe the private sector to come into hard hit areas like West Virginia to create jobs.
Except this never happens. Bill Clinton and Barak Obama failed to bring a modicum of economic prosperity to West Virginia. Donald Trump’s deregulatory approach will also leave West Virginia in poverty. The fact is that encouraging the rich to make more and more money does not create good paying jobs. For at least 40 years this has failed miserably leading to an ever increasing gap between the super-rich and the rest of us.
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01-12-2018, 07:32 AM
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Citation? otherwise you're a liar, Mike.
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Okay, okay. So he's willfully full of crap. Happy?
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Way to promote civility, Bob.
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01-13-2018, 08:01 PM
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Unfortunately, Hillary turned to pandering to coal miners after having told them the truth; That their product is a heavy polluting, non-renewable commodity in a permanent and inevitable state of decline. This is something Trump has yet the integrity or the honesty to do. He'd rather keep the gullible hillbillies strung along and voting for Republicans as long as he can, while trying to kill the social safety net they've become addicted to because that's what a manipulative scumbag does.
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01-14-2018, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Unfortunately, Hillary turned to pandering to coal miners after having told them the truth; That their product is a heavy polluting, non-renewable commodity in a permanent and inevitable state of decline. This is something Trump has yet the integrity or the honesty to do. He'd rather keep the gullible hillbillies strung along and voting for Republicans as long as he can, while trying to kill the social safety net they've become addicted to because that's what a manipulative scumbag does.
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Correct...except it's not pandering. Hillary promoted a $30 billion plan to help coal communities transition to a clean energy economy. I think the offer was sincere, and even productive. But she never backed off of her climate agenda which included active focus on the reduction of coal use in this country.
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