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Old 03-30-2010, 02:13 AM
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You can't spend yourself rich, especially when you're already broke.

We need to come up with a way to get industry up and running and people back to work producing wealth so we have a tax base. Government spending doesn't create wealth, it siphons it off.

Chas
Really? Even when the "government spending" is directed towards private industry, in the form of orders for materials, goods and services required to build bridges, highways, etc. and then these facilities are then used by private industry? So, you would have me believe the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System has never been an asset to to industry and commerce? T.R.s Panama Canal a total waste of time and money that has never benefitted anyone? The Hoover Dam? The list goes on and on..........

This is the GOP that I miss. The GOP that builds. Whatever happened to them. When did they turn into the assholes that they are today, with all of this "NO YOU CAN"T!", "LET IT FAIL!", "AMERICAN WORKERS ARE LAZY AND OVERPAID!", etc., etc., ad nauseum?

That's what I want to know.

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Old 03-30-2010, 11:28 AM
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Really? Even when the "government spending" is directed towards private industry, in the form of orders for materials, goods and services required to build bridges, highways, etc. and then these facilities are then used by private industry? So, you would have me believe the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System has never been an asset to to industry and commerce? T.R.s Panama Canal a total waste of time and money that has never benefitted anyone? The Hoover Dam? The list goes on and on..........

This is the GOP that I miss. The GOP that builds. Whatever happened to them. When did they turn into the assholes that they are today, with all of this "NO YOU CAN"T!", "LET IT FAIL!", "AMERICAN WORKERS ARE LAZY AND OVERPAID!", etc., etc., ad nauseum?

That's what I want to know.

Dave
We're still broke.

Chas
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:07 PM
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We're still broke.

Chas
Yes, but his point was that if we used the money as capital investment it could both stimulate the economy immediately and provide and on going revenue source that would more than pay for itself. To my mind, a smart move when 18% of working folks ain't workin'.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:35 PM
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Yes, but his point was that if we used the money as capital investment it could both stimulate the economy immediately and provide and on going revenue source that would more than pay for itself. To my mind, a smart move when 18% of working folks ain't workin'.
I agree, we need to jump start the economy, get people back to work, spending money, and paying taxes.

The current administrations focus on sustainable growth (green energy, higher prices on carbon based energy, reduced demand for consumer goods) will actually slow growth and put more people out of work.

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Old 03-31-2010, 12:58 AM
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Yes, but his point was that if we used the money as capital investment it could both stimulate the economy immediately and provide and on going revenue source that would more than pay for itself. To my mind, a smart move when 18% of working folks ain't workin'.
That's right, That is exactly the point I seek to make.

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Old 03-31-2010, 12:56 AM
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We're still broke.

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And we will remain broke until we get serious about investing in our own industries and people.

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