Central Texas woman, 93, fatally shot by police

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by one1

So,Dan Just what Are you trying to prove.You Cnnot take these incidents to make a case .it just shows Shit Happens and the Law is not perfect..there is a lot that goes on I dont like And detest,but it is basicly Live And let Live.that is what life is all about.you take the good with the bad and just hope not too much bad.

It'd be nice if people would think this way about gun owners.

[one1]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

It'd be nice if people would think this way about gun owners.

I think 90% of gun owners are idiots,I cant think of a logical reason any one would have to own a gun.

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by one1

I think 90% of gun owners are idiots,I cant think of a logical reason any one would have to own a gun.

And I've seen a police officer post selfies on FB of him and his year old baby girl driving down the hwy on his days off, but inforces the law to others when he catches them using cellphones while driving. I actually know this guy and I've called him out on it before telling him that not only does it look bad putting his kid in harms way by breaking the same laws they inforce, but that if he wrecked into someone else while doing that then that someone would most likely own him for life. I do not use a cellphone while driving so that law doesn't bother me. I see it as a good law but why should cops be exempt from the same rule? How safe do you feel? I mean if they will take their eyes off the road to take cellphone selfies of them with their small child behind their shoulder do you really think they'd give a shit about your life? Are these type responsable enough to be trusted with a gun and badge? I'm a gun owner and I can assure you that you wouldn't be put in harms way by me whether it be by my gun, or my cellphone.

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by one1

I think 90% of gun owners are idiots,I cant think of a logical reason any one would have to own a gun.

There are many many gun owners at AK and some of them are in my friends list. My father, a physician, had a gun collection and I grew up with them, I was even owner of an airgun.

When I was eleven I shot a lizard into its mouth. This little creature tracks me as long as I live. It was the most stupid thing I did in my childhood.

Well, I think a lot, or better: most gun owners are idiots but 90% is too much.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by one1

I think 90% of gun owners are idiots,I cant think of a logical reason any one would have to own a gun.

Logical? I need one to fend off the 90% that are idiots. Actually, I have been around guns since I was young and find that most people that were have more respect for them than those that weren't. If you consider the number of gun sales and how many people are at the range, it becomes rather clear that most gun owners have very little skill with their guns. Moreover, if they've never shot anything but paper, they do not have an understanding of the devastation a gun can create.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

It'd be nice if people would think this way about gun owners.

They won't.

Pete

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

It'd be nice if people would think this way about gun owners.

They Won't

[JCricket]

I gotta call you out on this one
First, the details of the shooting of a 93 year old woman are not at all clear. You may be right about it, but you do not know yet. No one knows yet. A 93 year old with a gun is every bit as deadly(maybe more so), than a young man. A gun is a deadly weapon. If they shot in self defense, the nso be it. Yeah, no one likes to think of the grandparent being shot, but how about the officer and his family. Do we let them just get shot. Like I said, we do not know the details yet.

Next, a drug courier is sentenced to jail for three years. He go off light in my opinion. Yeah he is 90 years old, so what! If he was guilty of bringing in something like 400 lbs of coke. What did that to do to people(admittedly by their own choice(or addiction) too)? Why should a 90 year old be given anything more than a normal person? They should be held every bit as accountable as anyone else.

Lastly, I looked all over the internet. There is not one article I could find that stated the facts in the title. Tabloid journalism at it s best. The ma was not arrested for speaking out, he was arrested for disorderly conduct. He refused to honor the rules of the meeting. He would not speak his piece and then allow the meeting to continue, he tried to dominant the floor with his complaints. He was allowed two minutes, as all the participants were. He was arrested after 19 minutes of continual interruption. Here again, he got what he paid for.

Police state, maybe, but more like asses who think they can do what they want and not pay for it.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by JCricket

I gotta call you out on this one
First, the details of the shooting of a 93 year old woman are not at all clear. You may be right about it, but you do not know yet. No one knows yet. A 93 year old with a gun is every bit as deadly(maybe more so), than a young man. A gun is a deadly weapon. If they shot in self defense, the nso be it. Yeah, no one likes to think of the grandparent being shot, but how about the officer and his family. Do we let them just get shot. Like I said, we do not know the details yet.

Next, a drug courier is sentenced to jail for three years. He go off light in my opinion. Yeah he is 90 years old, so what! If he was guilty of bringing in something like 400 lbs of coke. What did that to do to people(admittedly by their own choice(or addiction) too)? Why should a 90 year old be given anything more than a normal person? They should be held every bit as accountable as anyone else.

Lastly, I looked all over the internet. There is not one article I could find that stated the facts in the title. Tabloid journalism at it s best. The ma was not arrested for speaking out, he was arrested for disorderly conduct. He refused to honor the rules of the meeting. He would not speak his piece and then allow the meeting to continue, he tried to dominant the floor with his complaints. He was allowed two minutes, as all the participants were. He was arrested after 19 minutes of continual interruption. Here again, he got what he paid for.

Police state, maybe, but more like asses who think they can do what they want and not pay for it.

A police state occurs when an illegitimate government uses force to maintain power, or when a legitimate government uses force beyond that which is necessary to maintain safety. In this story, a police officer shot a suspect. Following the shooting, the officer was taken off the street; there will be an internal investigation; and a prosecutor will present the facts to a grand jury to determine whether that group of citizens concludes that the officer acted in self defense. When there are such consequences arising from a law enforcement officer's use of force, one can not credibly claim that the story is evidence of a police state.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

A police state occurs when an illegitimate government uses force to maintain power, or when a legitimate government uses force beyond that which is necessary to maintain safety. In this story, a police officer shot a suspect. Following the shooting, the officer was taken off the street; there will be an internal investigation; and a prosecutor will present the facts to a grand jury to determine whether that group of citizens concludes that the officer acted in self defense. When there are such consequences arising from a law enforcement officer's use of force, one can not credibly claim that the story is evidence of a police state.

Regards,

D-Ray

Nicely stated D-Ray.

Do you think the civilian police force is becoming too militarized? I read an article some time ago that depicted the slow, but steady, acquisition of miltitary hardware by civilian police forces since the early 1980s.