near term extinction

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Had similar experince searching 'bulb effect.'

But searching on Guy McPherson found this:



excerpt from
http://fractalplanet.wordpress.com/2...gets-it-wrong/

Just finished the same blog. McPherson does seem to be off by many magnitudes. I'm leaning towards McPherson being a crank and a fairly sloppy one at that. No offense to the OP.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Sorry, my bad.
I mean to say "wet bulb temperature". Here is a link to an article about it

http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/clim...s-extinct.html

and wikimisledia
http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/clim...s-extinct.html

Too late.

Don has already exposed your boy McPherson as a quack.

[JCricket]

this is where some of my info comes from
http://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/

[bobabode]

Don't give up yet Mark. McPherson uses a lot of the same tactics as the deniers use. That makes him very, very suspect imo.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JCricket

this is where some of my info comes from
http://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D_7oD0Diq8

[donquixote99]

I don't say quack, but I do find enough reason to be doubtful, and even more to be uninterested. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but McPherson's position is that nothing can be done, the situation is hopeless, we're all going to die, right? Well, if he's right, his message is therefore of no practical value, is it?

It may be of emotional value, of course. For example, one may take satisfaction is the thought that the rotten, awful human race is going to "get it."

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I don't say quack

OK, I'll own it.

The Dude's a quack.

That being said, I do think we are in for a major bitch slap from Mother Nature.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Sorry, my bad.
I mean to say "wet bulb temperature". Here is a link to an article about it

http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/clim...s-extinct.html

and wikimisledia
http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/clim...s-extinct.html

Ah, the problems is too-hot-plus-100%-humidity. People thus die of heatstroke because sweat won't evaporate so they can't cool themselves.

This problem has many solutions, both low and high tech. In temperate zones, a low tech solution is to live underground--below a few feet the soil temp tends toward the average temp, across summer and winter, for the area. Ever experience the natural air conditioning of Mammoth Cave?

Even in the tropics, one could make survival shelters easily enough. The energy-cheap (no air-conditioning) way to survive is to dry the air. Then you can use evaporating water (your sweat or other water) to cool things. An idea that occurs to me is an apparatus that first heats air, using sunlight, to drive off water, and then cools it to ambient by running it through a radiator of some sort.

My guess is that clever people will come up with even better ideas, as needed.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I don't say quack, but I do find enough reason to be doubtful, and even more to be uninterested. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but McPherson's position is that nothing can be done, the situation is hopeless, we're all going to die, right? Well, if he's right, his message is therefore of no practical value, is it?

It may be of emotional value, of course. For example, one may take satisfaction is the thought that the rotten, awful human race is going to "get it."

No practical value? I can certainly see your point in that comment. But, I can also see the use of such knowledge(assuming it is accurate) in redefining your priorities. Something like the question "If you had one day left to live, what would you do?"

And folks, I WHOLE HEARTIDLY invite rebuke, ass whooping, and anything else you can do to refute this. Seriously, beat the crap out of me if I am wrong and show me how.

yours truly,
one scared bug - the cricket
mark

[Rajoo]

Life on this earth is a continuous evolution. And along with man, technology's has also evolved. Natural laws do not allow an abrupt end, slow decay may be.