Court Strikes Down Federal Obamacare Subsidies

[whell]

Here's the article to check out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...ig-v-sebelius/

This article predates today's decision and is a critique of a lower court ruling in the same case. The language in the law is actually contradictory, very contradictory.

Frankly, if memory serves, the authors of the bill we're having the same political calculations that Icenine echos in post 11 above. They specifically identified the state exchanges as the vehicle for subsidy distribution to put political pressure on the states to set up their own exchanges. Remember that PPACA made available quite a bit of money to states to incent them to create their own exchanges as well. So much for the argument about "Congressional intent" in this case.

Of course maybe if Dems like Pelosi would have found out what was in the bill before they passed it, we wouldn't be having this issue right now.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by whell

The language in the law is actually contradictory, very contradictory.

So is the Bible.

Shit the law is 1990 pages long.

http://computationallegalstudies.com...h-of-h-r-3962/

Anything that long has got to be full of contractions.

I'll bet War and Peace is Full of Contradictions.

Or Stephen King's "The Stand".

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Or Stephen King's "The Stand".

Excellent book. The movie, not so much. But, the book I thoroughly enjoyed.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

So is the Bible.

Shit the law is 1990 pages long.

http://computationallegalstudies.com...h-of-h-r-3962/

Anything that long has got to be full of contractions.

I'll bet War and Peace is Full of Contradictions.

Or Stephen King's "The Stand".

Except that one could make the case that what is identified in this case as the "contradictory language" was placed there by design (as partof a political calculation) by the Bill's authors. In fact, that same language is repeated multiple times within the law.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by whell

Except that one could make the case that what is identified in this case as the "contradictory language" was placed there by design (as partof a political calculation) by the Bill's authors. In fact, that same language is repeated multiple times within the law.

Exactly. The language was put in there to force governors to setup exchanges & now it's coming back to bite them in their corrupt asses.
Roberts need to get his shit together this time...& I think he will.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Exactly. The language was put in there to force governors to setup exchanges & now it's coming back to bite them in their corrupt asses.
Roberts need to get his shit together this time...& I think he will.

Don't pop your cork on that champagne just yet ...next up the full DC court of appeals (that's what en banc means) will look at this and they will reverse it.

[bobabode]

Funny thing about all this is that to the average person it looks like petty and childish sour grapes by the Repubs over something they've already wasted a ton of taxpayer money on, trying to repeal the ACA.
Well done losers, please keep it up all summer.

[nailer]

Thinking you may just be right. I remember how pissed I got last time they played budget crisis bingo. Universal health care is not going to be easy to implement and its funding is going to require hard choices. I think more and more independent voters are seeing the mean spirited greed and exclusionism that is the Republican Party today. What concerns me is the Republicans' all or nothing scorched earth stance/policy. Taken to an uncompromising extreme their objectives may just drive the Federal Government into bankruptcy. The thing is, I believe enough Republicans will wake up before it's too late and this crisis will pass.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Funny thing about all this is that to the average person it looks like petty and childish sour grapes by the Repubs over something they've already wasted a ton of taxpayer money on, trying to repeal the ACA.
Well done losers, please keep it up all summer.

Not at all. What is looks like is mass confusion, a poorly written piece of legislation, government incompetence, and political infighting. The Dems crafted this legislation and implemented this albatross, so I think its hilarious that you're looking for a way to "blame" repubs. But have at it if it makes you happy.

By the way, I suspect we spend FAR more rolling out and trying to fix healthcare.gov than the Repubs ever did challenging PPACA.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by whell

Except that one could make the case

You don't have to remind me of the kinds of dumbassed cases you can make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcC1f1jqCPI