Do You Suppose He'll Be Tried As An Adult?

[donquixote99]

Hopefully the child's trauma will be fleeting. I don't remember anything from when I was two years old....

Carrying the weapon in a condition in which a two-year-old could fire it. and then letting it out of her physical control and into his, indeed sends the mother to the top of the Darwin Awards list.

[ebacon]

Supposedly the husband is defending his wife's actions in that she 1) had a purse designed for concealed carry and 2) she was trained to always be safe.

IMO the defense misses the point. A purse designed for concealed carry is NOT necessarily designed to safely leave a weapon in the care of a two year old. Second, firearms training, at least the way I was taught, was to leave the gun at home in a safe.

Supposedly the wife also liked hunting. I doubt she was hunting in a department store.

I understand the attraction to a woman with a gun. I have seen it first hand in Alaska. There is something about a woman with a baseball cap, hip-waders, and a nickel plated pistol on her hip. Still, at some point between Alaska and the lower 48, the attraction has to give way to common sense. Common sense says that in Alaska the distance between where grizzly bears dwell and where the department store is is a few hundred yards in the daytime. The distance is considerably farther in most parts of the lower 48.

[Ike Bana]

This story belongs in the "Thinning the Herd" section of Chuck Shepherd's News of the Weird.

I would suggest that the world is lucky this didn't kill somebody else's mother in the Walmart. Or kill the child, or somebody else's child. And that had Rutledge survived, or not been shot at all, that she would have been charged and prosecuted for at least involuntary manslaughter. If nobody had been hurt, prosecuted for child endangerment and have this poor kid taken away and permanently placed with a foster mother with at least half a brain.

As far as the child is concerned, the child shouldn't remember anything. The hippocampus really doesn't start processing explicit or declarative memory until age 4/5 or so. But he will grow up with no mother...and IMHO the boy should never be told how his mother died...ever. As far as I'm concerned, the stupid woman killed herself.

It that harsh? Tough shit. The level of endangerment to their own child, much less to the public, by these idiotic parents is beyond belief.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Supposedly the husband is defending his wife's actions in that she 1) had a purse designed for concealed carry and 2) she was trained to always be safe.

IMO the defense misses the point. A purse designed for concealed carry is NOT necessarily designed to safely leave a weapon in the care of a two year old. Second, firearms training, at least the way I was taught, was to leave the gun at home in a safe.

Right wing gun nuts actually believe they need to have a loaded weapon within arms reach 24/7. You can't fix that kind of stupid with training.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Right wing gun nuts actually believe they need to have a loaded weapon within arms reach 24/7. You can't fix that kind of stupid with training.

No, you can't but you can weed out some of the hopeless cases with training, assuming the training culminates in a final test that determines whether you can actually own a gun.

This would tend to reduce the number of guns sold, of course, so the NRA would never go for it.

John

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Supposedly the husband is defending his wife's actions in that she 1) had a purse designed for concealed carry and 2) she was trained to always be safe.

IMO the defense misses the point. A purse designed for concealed carry is NOT necessarily designed to safely leave a weapon in the care of a two year old. Second, firearms training, at least the way I was taught, was to leave the gun at home in a safe.

Supposedly the wife also liked hunting. I doubt she was hunting in a department store.

I understand the attraction to a woman with a gun. I have seen it first hand in Alaska. There is something about a woman with a baseball cap, hip-waders, and a nickel plated pistol on her hip. Still, at some point between Alaska and the lower 48, the attraction has to give way to common sense. Common sense says that in Alaska the distance between where grizzly bears dwell and where the department store is is a few hundred yards in the daytime. The distance is considerably farther in most parts of the lower 48.

Personally I prefer a woman with a good book in her hand, or at a movie festival. Or even better, one who can play a Telecaster and carry a tune.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Personally I prefer a woman with a good book in her hand, or at a movie festival. Or even better, one who can play a Telecaster and carry a tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5CLzJcfDss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK6tcgsKgps

John

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5CLzJcfDss

John

Ana Popovic is very impressive indeed.

Orianthi Panagaris...isn't she something? My first exposure was this little segment from the Crossroads 2007 DVD. It's so brief but still my favorite performance by Orianthi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC1i0g254eM

The thing about Orianthi is that as technically spectacular as she is...I've found myself unable to enjoy much of her recorded material so far. Reminds me a bit of John Mayer actually...the guy can definitely play with the best of them, but his library leaves me pretty cold...even the Cd he did with Pino Palladino and Steve Jordan.

The female player that really makes me crazy is bassist Tal Wilkenfeld...arrrrrghhhhhhhhhh!!!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The female player that really makes me crazy is bassist Tal Wilkenfeld...arrrrrghhhhhhhhhh!!!

Yeah? What about Esperanza Spalding?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aRC3YY3svs

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ebacon

Supposedly the husband is defending his wife's actions in that she 1) had a purse designed for concealed carry and 2) she was trained to always be safe.

Actually, I think the husband is defending his actions. The pistol was a Christmas present from him this year.

How much you want to bet this was her first sidearm and she received no instruction regarding concealed carry.

John