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Old 12-03-2010, 08:43 AM
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Anyway we do agree about one thing (I think), the planet is doomed. Fusion and space colonization is the only answer I see, unless the Chinese model of strapping women down and aborting their 9 month fetus is the new American way
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I disagree, we have screwed up this planet, why should we be allowed to screw up another?
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:06 AM
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Just another excuse to jack up your rates, or deny your claim.

If you ever read your policy, you will find that the party best protected is the insurance company itself.

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Correct,

And this is why we must trust them more, and regulate them less.

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:17 AM
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And I've said before, make green energy dependable and affordable, and I'll be the greenest SOB on the planet. But that will take time.

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How do we do this without continuing to fund research and stressing the importance of it? If we continue to poo-poo "global warming" until it has become a dirty word, eventually it will become impossible to advance the technology.

The folks who are against "global warming" also have a less that pure agenda, methinks. Why is it that so many people think only one side is capable of harboring a sinister agenda?

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:35 AM
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.... I'll be the greenest SOB on the planet. ...
I'll probably stay a kinda pale whitish pinkish.

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:51 AM
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Along with the problem of global warming, a concomitant (and politically incorrect) subject is overpopulation.
Sorry, but it seems that world overpopulation is a myth.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2..._crash_ext2010

Moreover, population growth in the industrialized democracies, particularly Europe is too low.

http://www.globalenvision.org/library/8/1776/

Facts are stubborn things.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:53 AM
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I was riding in the car with my brother one day. He looked out the window at farmland being converted into McMansionland and asked; "How long can that go on?"

A simple but profound question, I should say.

Problem is; What do you do about it? Sterilize people? Good luck with that.

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:55 AM
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Sorry, but it seems that world overpopulation is a myth.

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2..._crash_ext2010

Moreover, population growth in the industrialized democracies, particularly Europe is too low.

http://www.globalenvision.org/library/8/1776/

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very interesting links

thanks again
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:59 AM
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I was riding in the car with my brother one day. He looked out the window at farmland being converted into McMansionland and asked; "How long can that go on?"

A simple but profound question, I should say.

Problem is; What do you do about it? Sterilize people? Good luck with that.

Dave
In this particular instance, the problem isn't overpopulation, per se, but overconsumption. Do couples with no kids (or 1-2 kids) really need 7000 sq. ft. houses on 1/2 acre lots located 30 miles from where they work (along with a Lincoln Navigator for the commute)?
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:09 AM
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It amounts to rampant overpopulation. Like lemmings, we shall breed ourselves out of existence. The unspoken truth, when you do the math, is that we are just one crop failure from starvation.
If this were even remotely true (it isn't), why are we converting our grain surpluses to ethanol or feeding it to livestock?

BTW, crop failures don't happen worldwide at the same time. For every place getting too little rain, another is getting too much and another just the right amount. Winter in the southern hemisphere is summer in the north. If Russia (or Australia) has a poor wheat harvest, we have a good one and vice versa - not to mention our vast reserves.

Calm down, sir.
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:18 AM
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Calm down, sir.

Maybe
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I know he spooked me.
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