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Old 09-26-2012, 08:37 PM
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The places I have had dealings with are by no standards high end facilities. The price is what it is here. The state privatized all of their care facilities when Mitch got in almost eight years ago.



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Old 09-26-2012, 11:40 PM
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How so?
Oh so you can pay for long term care of the elderly? How do think Americans pay for it?
The blue chip jobs like my dad had with a nice pension have gone away, and I do not think companies pay for elderly health care insurance...I think Medicare and Medicaid does....if I am wrong someone let me know.

If Ryan voucherizes Medicare and your mom and day run out of money to pay the insurance company you are naturally going to want to pay for it....which would kill (financially) most families I think.
That is why I hate this voucher bullshit it will really destroy the middle class. It is not just about people over 65. Ryan knows this but he expects us not to be smart enough to figure it out.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:19 AM
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If true, Ryan's a moron.

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We already knew that.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:22 AM
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It's almost as if the republican party wants to lose the election.
That might be the only thing that saves the GOP. If they lose and wake up and throw Nyquist, Rove, limbaugh and the Tea Baggers overboard and steer toward the center the GOP might survive.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:32 AM
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Medicare/Medicaid is going broke. If something isn't done it will be gone.

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:41 AM
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Medicare/Medicaid is going broke. If something isn't done it will be gone.

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If left up to the Randian freaks who decry every such program as "so(c)ialism", it will be gone anyways.

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:50 AM
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Medicare/Medicaid is going broke. If something isn't done it will be gone.

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The Republican version of global warming?

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:56 AM
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My landlady is French. Her mother is in an extended care facility back in France. Her care was entirely covered by the French national health care program until what I assume must have been a lifetime cap was met. She's now responsible for paying the entire amount.

$750.00 per month.

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:57 AM
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Medicare/Medicaid is going broke. If something isn't done it will be gone.

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Not exactly true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-11e2-91e7-296

The solution is simple, make the people who sit around their pool, sitting on their ass', waiting for the dividend check to arrive, pay Medicare tax on every dollar they earn from capital gains income. Right now the pay $0 in Medicare taxes. There are bills passed that will tax unearned income starting in 2014.

If I have to pay Medicare taxes so does Rmoney.

If you do a little research the Obama Justice Department has eliminated billions in Medicare/Medicaid fraud. Cleaning up the system will also help.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:07 AM
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Medicare/Medicaid is going broke. If something isn't done it will be gone.

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This is exactly what Ryan is counting on....fears of national debt as an excuse to destroy important social welfare programs.
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