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Pretty much everyone in the world (including many Israelis) disagree with you on this.
Whell - You really need a better understanding of what's happening over there. Perhaps a month vacation there after things cool down, including a few trips on to the West Bank may help clarify things a bit. Your whole argument is nothing but a bunch of ill-informed platitudes gleaned from right wing Israel apologists.
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We could debate this forever. Suffice to say that the opinions of a bunch of European $ochialist (probable anti-Semites) doesn't mean much to me. The opinions are largely based on the 4th Geneva convention that not only predates the settlements but was written to address an entirely different set of circumstances. They also ignore a fair amount of history and prior international agreements.
And youR arguments are fine if you're in favor of propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum.
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07-26-2014, 08:34 PM
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And youR arguments are fine if you're in favor of propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum.
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Funny, that's exactly my impression of your argument.
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07-26-2014, 10:23 PM
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Funny, that's exactly my impression of your argument.
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And his approach has 65 years of success behind it.
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07-26-2014, 10:37 PM
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And his approach has 65 years of success behind it.
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I have read somewhere that Israel is one of the world's last colonial powers and the description fits.
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07-26-2014, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
We could debate this forever. Suffice to say that the opinions of a bunch of European $ochialist (probable anti-Semites) doesn't mean much to me. The opinions are largely based on the 4th Geneva convention that not only predates the settlements but was written to address an entirely different set of circumstances. They also ignore a fair amount of history and prior international agreements.
And youR arguments are fine if you're in favor of propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum.
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Don't you just hate it when people blame political differences on bigotry.
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07-27-2014, 07:43 AM
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Don't you just hate it when people blame political differences on bigotry.
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...except when the facts suggest that it may be true.
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07-27-2014, 07:51 AM
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That's an interesting one-sided analysis. You do realize that the same UN that created Israel in 1948 also established borders for the West Bank in 1967 and that all of the Israel settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem (which house over a half million Israelis) violate this UN resolution.
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And this is an interesting one-sided analysis of the complete history of the violations of West Bank borders. You do realize that the same UN borders that were illegally violated by Israel in 1967, were previously illegally violated by Jordan and Egypt shortly after their establishment in 1948. The convenient selective historical references by you people are tiresome, at best. And...please note the difference in the worldwide reactions to these "occupations." The Jew occupations... outrage! The Arab occupations...virtual silence. Once again it's teh Joos...
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07-27-2014, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
We could debate this forever. Suffice to say that the opinions of a bunch of European $ochialist (probable anti-Semites) doesn't mean much to me. The opinions are largely based on the 4th Geneva convention that not only predates the settlements but was written to address an entirely different set of circumstances. They also ignore a fair amount of history and prior international agreements.
And youR arguments are fine if you're in favor of propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum.
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First, Palestinians are Semites too. Secondly, it's not only European Soci@lists who have a problem with Israel's approach to the Palestinians. Pretty much everybody other than American conservatives (for some dubious reasons, among them the rapture), Egypt's new military dictator (el-Sisi), and Israelis support it.
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07-27-2014, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
We could debate this forever. Suffice to say that the opinions of a bunch of European $ochialist (probable anti-Semites) doesn't mean much to me. The opinions are largely based on the 4th Geneva convention that not only predates the settlements but was written to address an entirely different set of circumstances. They also ignore a fair amount of history and prior international agreements.
And youR arguments are fine if you're in favor of propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum.
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Pat is not the one "...propagating the conflict over there ad infinitum."
Israeli Zionism is.
Dave
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