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11-03-2016, 10:01 AM
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The IBEW stands foursquare behind HRC's candidacy along with virtually every other trade union.
Clinton/Kaine '16 - The Only Sane Choice.
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11-03-2016, 10:10 AM
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The IBEW stands foursquare behind HRC's candidacy along with virtually every other trade union.
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The handful of elitists at the top who wear suits and ties decided who to endorse.
You can bet the majority of the rank and file will pull the lever for Trump.
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11-03-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
In which case the electricians would save our asses from making a stupid mistake with a pompous impulsive manchild.
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If electricians is a typo for electors then you are assuming that Trump would get the popular vote.
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11-03-2016, 11:11 AM
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In which case the electricians would save our asses from making a stupid mistake with a pompous impulsive manchild.
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Actually, and if I understand correctly, this is would not happen. If it falls to the house, each state representatives will gather and amongst themselves decide how that state should cast a vote. Each state gets only one vote. So if you look at the number of states that are held by the GOP, not the number of seats held, it will likely fall on the party lines. I think that is currently republican, approximately 20 states are dem, 30 are GOP.
To further elaborate on my first post, if Trump gets in, he is likely to be charged and then removed from office. This leaves Pence in charge. Of course, this is if the election falls to the house.
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11-03-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JCricket
Actually, and if I understand correctly, this is would not happen. If it falls to the house, each state representatives will gather and amongst themselves decide how that state should cast a vote. Each state gets only one vote. So if you look at the number of states that are held by the GOP, not the number of seats held, it will likely fall on the party lines. I think that is currently republican, approximately 20 states are dem, 30 are GOP.
To further elaborate on my first post, if Trump gets in, he is likely to be charged and then removed from office. This leaves Pence in charge. Of course, this is if the election falls to the house.
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If this were to play out as you have suggested, Trump can only be removed by impeachment and he cannot be impeached for crimes he committed before assuming the Presidency. I am not even sure this is how it works and probably why sane people do not want Trump in the WH.
Question remains that if the electoral college vote is ties, does the house have to select between Trump and Hillary? I cannot find a definite answer for this.
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11-03-2016, 02:28 PM
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To further elaborate on my first post, if Trump gets in, he is likely to be charged and then removed from office.
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Where the Hell do you get that notion?
Trump is not the one that is under investigation by the FBI.
That would be Hillary.
For the record, if she is elected, I would not be in favor of impeachment for her.
That wold stick us with Kane who I don't like any more than I do her.
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11-03-2016, 02:34 PM
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The Constitution just says the President can be impeached for "High crimes and misdemeanors." These terms are not defined, so there's no way to say they mean anything but whatever the House says they mean. If a majority of the House says 'combing your hair like THAT' is a high crime, then it goes to the Senate, and if 2/3 of them agree, he's out. The only defense against trivial charges like my example is getting Congress members or Senators to vote the charges down. There's no review by the Supreme Court, so if you're convicted but you don't think it was a high crime, tough.
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11-03-2016, 02:35 PM
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If electricians is a typo for electors then you are assuming that Trump would get the popular vote.
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Intentional misappropriation, no reason other than a bit of levity.
Anything is possible, but the electors were supposed to be a shield against demagoguery and mob rule, unless they themselves are taken in by it.
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11-03-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
If this were to play out as you have suggested, Trump can only be removed by impeachment and he cannot be impeached for crimes he committed before assuming the Presidency. I am not even sure this is how it works and probably why sane people do not want Trump in the WH.
Question remains that if the electoral college vote is ties, does the house have to select between Trump and Hillary? I cannot find a definite answer for this.
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If he does get elected, we won't have to wait long for him to commit an impeachable offense. Considering his history.... He won't be able to keep himself from doing something that stupid.
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11-03-2016, 02:38 PM
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The Constitution just says the President can be impeached for "High crimes and misdemeanors."
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I know.
"High Crimes and misdemeanors" is about as bullshit a phrase as "well regulated militia".
Taken literally the President could be impeached for spitting on the sidewalk.
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