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Old 05-10-2014, 04:21 AM
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What "racist, bigoted comments"?

Is this more of that, "Tom hates white people.", nonsense?

Paul actually does seem to get nervous in front of largely black crowds. It's obvious that when he is faced with that situation his tone and his rhetoric changes.

That's not racist, it's the truth.

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Paul always looks nervous. Can't really see him as a powerful charismatic leader—milk toast comes to mind. I do like some of his dad's positions.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:09 AM
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AFAIK, Libertarians don't believe In gvmt oversight of commercial and financial affairs, I consider that dangerously irrational and wouldn't consider such for a position of public interest under any circumstances. Self - regulation has repeatedly shown not to work for the best public common interest.

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Old 05-10-2014, 08:12 AM
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AFAIK, Libertarians don't believe In gvmt oversight of commercial and financial affairs, I consider that dangerously irrational and wouldn't consider such for a position of public interest under any circumstances. Self - regulation has repeatedly shown not to work for the best public common interest.

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They aren't big on foreign policy either.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:53 AM
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You amaze me everyday with you racist bigoted comments.
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What "racist, bigoted comments"?

Is this more of that, "Tom hates white people.", nonsense?

Paul actually does seem to get nervous in front of largely black crowds. It's obvious that when he is faced with that situation his tone and his rhetoric changes.

That's not racist, it's the truth.

Dave
And with this comment your a racist bigot
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It's just a bit of troll tactics. 'Whatever they criticise 'you' for, just throw it back.' Never support, never explain, just do it. It's a defensive move that obstructs and confuses.
Are you two really that ignorant or is it you only want to see a racist bigot directed at a minority?

Those blacks aways want everything for free they are all gang bangers looting and steeling.

Mexicans are just a bunch of sneaky lazy low life's.

He was probably scared shitless because he didn't have his usual all-white audience.

All these baggers are scared to death of black people.

If you two are really against Bigotry, Prejudice, Stereotyping, Racism that your party is supposed to be fighting against, You would be better served telling Tom to STFU.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:54 AM
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This may be the key to it right here:



He was probably scared shitless because he didn't have his usual all-white audience.

All these baggers are scared to death of black people.
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What "racist, bigoted comments"?

Is this more of that, "Tom hates white people.", nonsense?

Paul actually does seem to get nervous in front of largely black crowds. It's obvious that when he is faced with that situation his tone and his rhetoric changes.

That's not racist, it's the truth.

Dave


prejudice

The word prejudice refers to prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics. In this case, it refers to a positive or negative evaluation of another person based on their perceived group membership. Prejudice can also refer to unfounded beliefs and may include "any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

Stereotype

Stereotypes, prejudice, and discrimination are understood as related but different concepts. Stereotypes are regarded as the most cognitive component and often occurs without conscious awareness, whereas prejudice is the affective component of stereotyping and discrimination is the behavioral component of prejudicial reactions. In this tripartite view of intergroup attitudes, stereotypes reflect expectations and beliefs about the characteristics of members of groups perceived as different from one's own, prejudice represents the emotional response, and discrimination refers to actions.
Although related, the three concepts can exist independently of each other.According to Daniel Katz and Kenneth Braly, stereotyping leads to racial prejudice when people emotionally react to the name of a group, ascribe characteristics to members of that group, and then evaluate those characteristics.

Possible prejudicial effects of stereotypes are:

Justification of ill-founded prejudices or ignorance

Unwillingness to rethink one's attitudes and behavior towards stereotyped groups

Preventing some people of stereotyped groups from entering or succeeding in activities or fields

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Bigotry

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust or hatred on the basis of a person's ethnicity, evaluative orientation, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.

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Bigot (disambiguation)


A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot_(disambiguation)

Racism

Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.While most conceptualizations of racism include the notion of "race based discrimination", the exact definition is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about the meaning of the concept "race", and because there is also little agreement about what does and does not constitute discrimination.

Some definitions consider that any assumption that a person's behavior would be influenced by their racial categorization is inherently racist, regardless of whether the action is intentionally harmful or pejorative, because stereotyping necessarily subordinates individual identity to group identity. In sociology and psychology, a common view distinguishes prejudice from racism, holding that racism is best understood as 'prejudice plus power' because without the support of political or economic power, prejudice would not be able to manifest as a pervasive cultural, institutional or social phenomenon. Other definitions only include consciously malignant forms of discrimination. Among the questions about how to define racism are the question of whether to include forms of discrimination that are unintentional, such as making assumptions about preferences or abilities of others based on racial stereotypes, whether to include symbolic or institutionalized forms of discrimination such as the circulation of ethnic stereotypes through the media, and whether to include the socio-political dynamics of social stratification that sometimes have a racial component. Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes. Some critics of the term argue that the term is applied differentially, with a focus on such prejudices by whites, and in ways that define mere observations of any possible differences between races as racism.

Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.

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Old 05-10-2014, 09:56 AM
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AFAIK, Libertarians don't believe In gvmt oversight of commercial and financial affairs, I consider that dangerously irrational and wouldn't consider such for a position of public interest under any circumstances. Self - regulation has repeatedly shown not to work for the best public common interest.

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Old 05-10-2014, 09:59 AM
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We know what racism and bigotry are, Dan. What makes no sense are your attempts to turn every instance of someone calling out bigotry into the person calling it out to be the racist. It's stupid and doesn't work, so give it up already.

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Old 05-10-2014, 10:00 AM
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Tom Is a racist hypocritical bigot stereotyping classes of people with his Prejudicey.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:03 AM
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What "racist, bigoted comments"?

Is this more of that, "Tom hates white people.", nonsense?

Paul actually does seem to get nervous in front of largely black crowds. It's obvious that when he is faced with that situation his tone and his rhetoric changes.

That's not racist, it's the truth.

Dave
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We know what racism and bigotry are, Dan. What makes no sense are your attempts to turn every instance of someone calling out bigotry into the person calling it out to be the racist. It's stupid and doesn't work, so give it up already.

Dave
Dave you obviously don't, or is it you rather be a hypocrite?
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:03 AM
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Whatever, Dan.

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