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10-22-2016, 10:29 AM
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The two parties will very much want to kill this.
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Maybe too late after the Bernie Show in Colorado.
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10-22-2016, 10:31 AM
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Prop. 108, by doing away with the direct election of Senators and Congressmen, might find itself at odds with the 17th Amendment. In any case, it's a bad initiative which is profoundly undemocratic and should be defeated.
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I think it only does away with primary elections, if a party so chooses. No affect on general elections, so no conflict with 17th.
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10-22-2016, 10:34 AM
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The two parties will very much want to kill this.
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108 is an attempt to kill it, by drawing some votes away from it. I doubt if there's any expectation that 108 will pass.
Of course, propositions being what they are, one could vote for both. Don't know what would happen if both passed....
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10-22-2016, 11:13 AM
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prop 108
"Shall there be a change to the Colorado Revised statues concerning the process of selecting candidates representing political parties on a general election ballot, and, in connection therewith, allowing an unaffiliated elector to vote in the primary election without declaring an affiliation with that party and permitting a political party in specific circumstances to select all of its candidates by assembly or convention instead of by primary election?"
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10-22-2016, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
108 is an attempt to kill it, by drawing some votes away from it. I doubt if there's any expectation that 108 will pass.
Of course, propositions being what they are, one could vote for both. Don't know what would happen if both passed....
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I think 108 would trump 107
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10-22-2016, 11:30 AM
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prop 108
"Shall there be a change to the Colorado Revised statues concerning the process of selecting candidates representing political parties on a general election ballot, and, in connection therewith, allowing an unaffiliated elector to vote in the primary election without declaring an affiliation with that party and permitting a political party in specific circumstances to select all of its candidates by assembly or convention instead of by primary election?"
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Nasty!
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10-22-2016, 11:35 AM
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Devil is in the 'specific circumstances' clause in 108 and wonder how that is applied to a specific election. Either way the two party's power is slipping and will continue.
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